X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=+ucw6/5JLXbmEqr+WOZRZUg7gyzOnBWkMBOTutrblIQ=; b=QcfWEuPRmV7tyVo0w9d9R/O22nZXCcRy3UbLBaINlbCdJ29TZU0mpZCsgacQUs0LWf z4Wf53R3Lesh23l8BUem/cXIQu4MaRpaEMH3VCtXzjA22US73GndY+ypcXo5VrEFLIo6 WibcetHg/En7FY4hIZ+Yenvy1U6g3MwKMBjhOZi4JWW4rLDG7bozNo+c5kezsiqTNx7N vboM1YyigJjnLiXRicoo4QZa25lYm9frvFbhgSKxie5JJX/xCu/Jx2HOHtilcU6dn0LO FXiaH1/urRP/Mdz1LYp4wrVoxNBsjrsOZkOO/dHK5gzlzj6X/I0mtqq5rGjOXEZem+r6 K5gQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=+ucw6/5JLXbmEqr+WOZRZUg7gyzOnBWkMBOTutrblIQ=; b=prfPV5qYFy9aYNKGM/FjqzHBD+eRoH3QSe0xU967DFXJ9teyVnDidszp64slqZaYdr lCLG6/ZT67aMzetTRGODLvwBKbPVzT2iFQbt/H/dPvZVDTfnOsKSpnLfiTB4dg1oU8CA qJcfpd3+GCr1Q+SQL1ZIxZ7AX/HbJxyIu1+gL3l8hfY/J2s0BNc48rg7kOdYW2n6O1e4 Ud7XTm/39PJSXIaxu7G0xgUgVBicrBpQg3/dXFv4iTPv0Pdws2DaqGT8Y6sFcDFTw1ft q9OhhGtZEWK6j3AHBwSlVq6FxWNSFPZ7AMa5meFLs/8SxnbH/4PAS6guX+2vwloREVl1 UdjQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533/jc94cRBe3hcZBNRHV8Uf1cm75chhAinyYj2DmEwpTGJlCEKe 6kSAZP4pjM1lJW8FdUB98iuGKymYy3LQgvE90dOsrh0K X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyVrqJy2f5yGb3TNwGGIw5cCbAfoXKbiK/7BaL62ybE5Yxg1mZgG+y+4SPxeziF3rFXMmU01Wm29COTbGBaO0o= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9703:: with SMTP id r3mr10723171lji.422.1636669962138; Thu, 11 Nov 2021 14:32:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20211111163908 DOT 16668 DOT qmail AT rahul DOT net> In-Reply-To: <20211111163908.16668.qmail@rahul.net> From: "Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2021 09:02:30 +1030 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] pcb-rnd vs pcb? To: geda-user Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b5358305d08aeb34" Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com --000000000000b5358305d08aeb34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" pcb-rnd has a very simple horizontal-vertical internal autorouter within its autorouting window, along with two experimental more topologically based routers which are part of route-rnd, based on the Tal Dayan thesis. pcb-rnd also supports specctra dsn export to allow external autorouters to be used. A headless version of the java freerouting application also works pretty seemlessly from within pcb-rnd's autorouting dialogue http://repo.hu/projects/freerouting_cli/ Alternatively, you can fire up the GUI freerouting application, https://github.com/freerouting/freerouting then autoroute the dsn file exported from pcb-rnd, then export the resulting specctra session file, and import it back into pcb-rnd. It would pay to check on the pcb-rnd mailing list as to the plans for the legacy gEDA PCB internal autorouter code. Regards, Erich On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 03:19 conover AT rahul DOT net (John Conover) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com], wrote: > Is there a way to use the auto router from pcb in pcb-rnd? > > pcb-rnd's auto router seems inferior to pcb's. > > I tried routing 44 legacy designs done with pcb, (with pcb-rnd,) and > none routed to completion. > > Thanks, > > John > > -- > > John Conover, conover AT rahul DOT net, http://www.johncon.com/ > --000000000000b5358305d08aeb34 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
pcb-rnd has a very simple horizontal-vertical internal au= torouter within its autorouting window,=C2=A0 along with two experimental m= ore topologically based routers which are part of route-rnd, based on the T= al Dayan thesis.=C2=A0

pcb-rnd= also supports specctra dsn export to allow external autorouters to be used= .

A headless version of = the java freerouting application also works pretty seemlessly from within p= cb-rnd's autorouting dialogue


Alternatively,=C2=A0 you can fire up the GUI freerouting appli= cation,=C2=A0


the= n autoroute the dsn file exported from pcb-rnd,=C2=A0 then export the resul= ting specctra session file,=C2=A0 and import it back into pcb-rnd.=C2=A0

It would pay to check on t= he pcb-rnd mailing list as to the plans for the legacy gEDA PCB internal au= torouter code.

Regards,= =C2=A0

Erich



On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 03:19= conover AT rahul DOT net (John Conover) = [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com], &= lt;geda-user AT delorie DOT com> w= rote:
Is there a way to use the aut= o router from pcb in pcb-rnd?

pcb-rnd's auto router seems inferior to pcb's.

I tried routing 44 legacy designs done with pcb, (with pcb-rnd,) and
none routed to completion.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thanks,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 John

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John Conover, conover AT rahul DOT net, http://www.johncon.com/
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