X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=xs4all.nl; s=s1; t=1600122337; bh=cGWlvGSuutd0BKrCpnkBv4K+sz+5T01E1Mgv3zrx5aw=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:From: Subject; b=oGmp4QUslYF9zWFlmmdnb8oC+bVQOW09SflGOxWhy0A6j2vw2xa5g/ZBtAkp/2XCG FwMyK8v8CGifPG6kJX5lYjHC89ldGQ7q1v+lpcHXtEEJKbde30p8LOP4ymbnvwNt3n 8WwwdBaUYrRcu+PpopUe2gqLbQs1dOV4iSw3o6SelXUPkkVDnrVodAtVRVmAaGBen5 TZ2xr63Q82D5vVfFCElgdo2DQJtkPDdjcc5C4T40e7sJfrx8JaU83CsReMGEQUtLqi FLmo3aXAg+nnwztaJXTWj8H+rOKGbcUUJR2GxNz78lrBWa3x7Zizq7SsfWzAuEJ5bo BEqg0E7WBq/EA== Message-ID: <5F5FEDD8.2060908@xs4all.nl> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 00:25:28 +0200 From: "Bert Timmerman (bert DOT timmerman AT xs4all DOT nl) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110429 Fedora/2.0.14-1.fc13 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] finding/selecting lines without clearline that are buried inside polygons References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfEBiTE1gz9L05/RugeWfEIxuxCQpZdnHyftqY24rPufc2iipY8cktEMT1SZCJqn889DmaLnxu9rDEoQp34RZvp9lsHUDJdVtI6jlTOLUQ+1euzgW9c/e ZwHSYBs1T36/vCmY2brmgI+vn7Awvpc6LhQ5x6EJyyvAABCUAasNhxj3iJm4f3GPl8cG/D8K3vuVgA== Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 1:54 PM DJ Delorie wrote: > >> >> does the "thin draw poly" setting help? >> > No, lines without clearline still aren't visible. However as Nicklas > points out they are selectable. So this seems to be a render bug. > As the attached screenshot shows clearline lines render correctly. > It's possible this arrangement was intended to make lines used as > "paint" look good (undistracting or something) but if so I'd say it's > a bad choice. This looks like it might be an easy fix and if there's > agreement that it should be changed I'll try it. > > Britton > > > screenshot.jpg > > Hi Britton, In a real board the line traces (w/o clearline == join) and the copper plane would be the same copper (and not 35 um trace copper on top of 35 um plane copper for a total of 70 um copper layer thickness at the line trace). I you draw a line trace (w/o clearline == join) across a copper plane and hit "|" for thin line you would see the line trace continue after the plane. In the above screenshot I think I see two copper planes, a grey-ish one and a red-ish one, each on a different layer, red on top of grey. I think the rendering is ok. I think the vias are tented and have no noticeable clearance. Could you please post a minimal pcb native file showing the behaviour ? As to verify my assumptions. Kind regards, Bert Timmerman.