X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=xRsaH/pjl1rECK2k2wUrC/kDcnSH4Jtdvih3tt1wqbQ=; b=hhWKPBxtp1IwrWFp0lVJyfFW/PvDGT7IqPzOIyeBh3jvnR4atFGsbkuHc6OltC0QAP NIpY/ZeuZ+aNjpOtoPu3lwj9LWFuR9fhpeM+W/CekDaDEnNs8al/4ltRS7Pg/i6Vn6L6 ZADM1Coi4UQYMpojIJFhL5UuEzfOUrARBSxJXctG2TlCstSWLpxGIlPHow8NabjSCP19 aGn6UnZ6AqGRpOKbYUsiWEYqq1+3/X2KYslxmZV2XtvypD7dbDovnf9HZF9ajm1Z/spI oCDnj5gwIX0qR/39Xy8ho/kMSOOpbcmzkOZn82WVlfK0m28nEFLFeUFyE34edkmjL8c4 Q72w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=xRsaH/pjl1rECK2k2wUrC/kDcnSH4Jtdvih3tt1wqbQ=; b=C33ciyE8j8aZqokH0bXVnVquJ4C2+MIst7pVjkx77rYUaX3a77QNDGMMdPwgf6Giz0 p5sranSFK3tQhqn1QbmE2p+TqtPL+HD5hPDuT9yghC1lZmIY6U8zQuDgtjuYW0SEjvWF pZppeubSJhQoQryfp9fBsP586wdmSnz1eeH6lMuRL8xg7o2P6g8v4yi4zm/6UM+Z9E3u agsPGdpSL+rpp/eRNlxgYx03eH9ZgUNIN1QW8r0lyjzgR/yVrCRap5s/c4KcOvrVmRq2 lyF7Ps/C4GzHg6t4CaSalYv3+5cgBjYFT+m051QazdB2MehbNYgRSUEoXahghWbUaBcW C85g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5325P7DRpUD/uZyF1IVwvSNUIgPwbrHbqoIPWDmO5Lkmb9wZnLPY KKuSTy0eMUhbh1d8jf7XxcAhdElKHpL0aGItVFzs+g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwr8WjogHlS+3eF6cNrzJMhb4bfOZz1ooXCf7twnsriy3nISA3nEwywHHHz1Mk3TYECdVTjQE6RLBKfzVFg5Q8= X-Received: by 2002:aca:1b0a:: with SMTP id b10mr600779oib.7.1594264271442; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 20:11:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200706195132 DOT 310da9ba3737f9727c71821c AT gmail DOT com> <20200708214547 DOT 6b36f9ea137e0e64e502c90a AT gmail DOT com> In-Reply-To: <20200708214547.6b36f9ea137e0e64e502c90a@gmail.com> From: "Marvin Dickens (mpdickens AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 23:10:59 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] Soldering high current thru hole components To: geda-user Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000093da9605a9f9930c" Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com --00000000000093da9605a9f9930c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Nicholas, Sorry for the late reply. A good preheater beats a hot air gun. Hands down. Always. A preheater beats everything which is why every rework station in a business environment always has one front and center on the table of every technician. You can go hot air with products from Hakko, Pace or A.P.E. If you go with Infrared, go with dark IR and avoid near IR heater (Quartz tubes and such...). In essence, with IR, you want a unit that has Ersa ceramic heaters in it. Ersa ceramic heaters emit energy at a wavelength that is easily absorbed by inorganic materials like solder and other metals, but passes through organic materials such as plastic. For me, dark IR heaters are a necessity. Cheers Everybody! Wear a mask, wash your hands and stay safe! Marvin On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 4:27 PM N (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > You did no answer, I said something stupid? > > > Hi, > > > > 30 years of experience in assembly and rework of electronic PCB's and > > devices. Use a preheater to heat the board > > up prior to trying to solder the component(s) onto the board. Heat it up > to > > at least 110 C and not more than 130 C. > > If the board has a large ground plane, it may take 15 or 20 minutes to > > preheat the board to a workable temperature. > > > > A good preheater changes everything in assembly and rework... > > > > Regards > > > > Marvin > > > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 6:36 PM Stephen Ecob > > wrote: > > > > > I find an electric hot air gun works well. I'd probably try solder > > > paste heated by a hot air gun with temperature monitored with an IR > > > thermometer. > > > Regards > > > Stephen Ecob > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 3:51 AM N (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via > > > geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > > > > > > > > Anybody here have experience with soldering of high current > components > > > like current sensors and connectors on thick copper boards? > > > > > > > > I have a large solder iron and it have the necessary power but tip is > > > also very large. Anyone have experience with solder iron driven by > gas? Or > > > if wave soldering work well with high current thru hole components? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards Nicklas Karlsson > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Stephen Ecob > > > Silicon On Inspiration > > > Sydney Australia > > > www.sioi.com.au > --00000000000093da9605a9f9930c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Nicholas,

Sorry for the late reply. = A good preheater beats a hot air gun. Hands down. Always. A preheater beats= =C2=A0
everything which is why every rework station in a business= environment always has one front and center
on the table of ever= y technician. You can go hot air with products from Hakko, Pace or A.P.E. I= f you go with
Infrared, go with dark IR and avoid near IR heater = (Quartz tubes and such...). In essence, with IR, you want
a unit = that has Ersa ceramic heaters in it. Ersa ceramic heaters emit energy at a = wavelength that is easily
absorbed by inorganic materials like so= lder and other metals, but passes through organic materials such as=C2=A0
plastic. For me, dark IR heaters are a necessity.

Cheers Everybody!=C2=A0

Wear a mask, wash= your hands and stay safe!

Marvin

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">
You did no ans= wer, I said something stupid?

> Hi,
>
> 30 years of experience in assembly and rework of electronic PCB's = and
> devices. Use a preheater to heat the board
> up prior to trying to solder the component(s) onto the board. Heat it = up to
> at least=C2=A0 110 C and not more than 130 C.
> If the board has a large ground plane, it may take 15 or 20 minutes to=
> preheat the board to a workable temperature.
>
> A good preheater changes everything in assembly and rework...
>
> Regards
>
> Marvin
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 6:36 PM Stephen Ecob <stephen DOT ecob AT sioi DOT com DOT au> > wrote:
>
> > I find an electric hot air gun works well. I'd probably try s= older
> > paste heated by a hot air gun with temperature monitored with an = IR
> > thermometer.
> > Regards
> > Stephen Ecob
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 3:51 AM N (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via > > geda-u= ser AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Anybody here have experience with soldering of high current = components
> > like current sensors and connectors on thick copper boards?
> > >
> > > I have a large solder iron and it have the necessary power b= ut tip is
> > also very large. Anyone have experience with solder iron driven b= y gas? Or
> > if wave soldering work well with high current thru hole component= s?
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards Nicklas Karlsson
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Stephen Ecob
> > Silicon On Inspiration
> > Sydney Australia
> > www.sioi.com.au
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