X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=HX47vN2gxvh1Fbd8svNTUMyGRxp2+hWtlDo6/QRLYE8=; b=PLZCSqaRMIUIdP6huw5aDmmk24dxELwAz+D60eB8xOa8ig62QNW9KcMEsZ8Tc7IjMM e5ShUnJ1RQf2agjSU0JdvpDIVExP6XJB9OxKd0umNsGuJVwkjaxFNLhP1mthTE451+Xl CT1I3xDcTf2Xg3n0Zd0xByre6P4QypxvFrOKC1AD9bCfOLHy2rPpwx6iuuF8ldu764oi kRjtrys5BI7L6L7ZhJnJKzpKcb/NJ6CKuorSwhTRI2BW2gj7J+c0HN4cdi+cFV20qIvV dqwddc+dfhgdsz2QQqRwJR8nlgb1xRzQ1rkFkK1liuHLfkLOb7HzPo5Kqma+QTiHdIdD AkaQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=HX47vN2gxvh1Fbd8svNTUMyGRxp2+hWtlDo6/QRLYE8=; b=VHIZOpjFiCK44/nGBVCXNW4V4mYvj0Uv7cMfWw8MIg+g502zyH9nghh1keUV83MMao XvTvcPRFbmPRLCp4cVj1hPm9j5uGFtming1++0YisiCJE1JgpT0nM6jROA/h0eee2ncP r5laAVYwt1F2avYcvtkXpFO5tz/SJIDs4OqBCRrgdopVV0TyCkbSBB27xSwvg5ZWS/yw pxw5F//Kfi5HTdIkGAzBFvVQMEL43oWl3x1geXeeKJBjEst9MCD4rFLyb3vahkUb1dJP mmKMUoAl52w80NrD902sVP3hVXeV63I+LWM44rfdaIvZCz6DkJp08zWnylBuKbQTrewW 06fQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWh1jxKlHB/JT6rJq6bTaPb6B7g02EvnNMlfjtdYw4fZ8riRpfD MWwkZfpy77zqJxVzZOfj/TcoRbOTXcu0Q052oqkwyA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyADXNGzArgolgK4CVk8K9nqBdWOR9AI+DATBUlDErz/pK6WmUPA1gUDbtYvflKL31+vwcTBXOMztgebcCs8Xw= X-Received: by 2002:a25:84c5:: with SMTP id x5mr34857834ybm.85.1558393207753; Mon, 20 May 2019 16:00:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: "Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 08:29:55 +0930 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] RS-274D Gerber Conversion To: geda-user Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000918fb8058959b19b" Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com --000000000000918fb8058959b19b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" If the project is non urgent and is not commercial in confidence, i could probably add support to the gerber parser used in translate2geda and translate2coralEDA if i had example files to work with. Erich. On Tue, 21 May 2019 08:22 Erich Heinzle, wrote: > Pcb elegance's pcb layout tool "pcb" will also import gerbers, not just > viewplot, it seems. You won't need the polygonal flashed aperture support > of viewplot for a 1990s board, for non round pibs, i suspect. Try impirting > directly into the layout tool, then exporting. Failing that, InputGerber.c > has most of the code you need. > > Erich. > > > > On Mon, 20 May 2019 17:58 Derek Stewart (derek AT q40 DOT de) [via > geda-user AT delorie DOT com], wrote: > >> Hi Erich, >> >> PCB Elegance uses Viewplot 2.0, which did load the RS-274D Gerber >> correctly, but I need to pay 600 Euros for a Licence key to save the >> Gerber files in RS-274X format. >> >> I will try your utilities, I was hoping Gerbv could lod in the older >> Gerber file format. >> >> Regards, >> >> Derek >> >> On 19/05/2019 18:30, Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via >> geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >> > The now open source tool "pcb elegance" gerber load code appears to >> cope >> > with gerber aperture files. You may be able to load up the old gerbers >> > and aperture files and then attempt export of rs-274x gerbers from pcb >> > elegance. >> > >> > Once you have rs-274x gerbers, they xan be turned intoa footprint with >> > translate2geda or translate2coralEDA for loading into gEDA pcb or into >> > pcb-rnd. >> > >> > I managed to get pcb elegance running under wine on lubuntu. Their >> > gerber viewing tool seems to cope better with loading polygonal flashed >> > apertures than the pcb tool, but this should not be an issue for a >> 1990s >> > rs-274d board iiuc. >> > >> > Failing that, i could try to add the ability to load an aperture file >> in >> > conjunction with a gerber file in my utilities translate2geda and >> > translate2coralEDA (available on github). >> > >> > translate2coralEDA exports proper padstacks for pcb-rnd with polygonal >> > pad definitions, allowing round rect, obround, square, rect, circular, >> > etc pads, which may not be an issue for a 1990s board, but, you may be >> > able to take advantage of the padstack prototypes in pcb-rnd to add >> > drills to all padstacks of the same geometry, for example, in one fell >> > swoop, since a gerber layer will not include drill information. >> > >> > Good luck! >> > >> > Erich >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sun, 19 May 2019 18:18 Derek Stewart (derek AT q40 DOT de >> > ) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com >> > ], > > > wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > I have an old computer project designed in the late 1990s, for a >> 68060 >> > single board computer, I used to produce, from Gerber files in >> RS-274D. >> > But not many PCB manufacturers use the RS-274D format. >> > >> > The Gerber files were produced in PCAD for DOS, which I have never >> > found >> > an implementation of PCAD, Protel, Tango PCB or Altium Designer to >> read >> > the binary PCB files. >> > >> > I would like to make some more PCBs, but I only have the RS-274D >> Gerber >> > files, what is hte best way to convert them to RS-274X or more >> modern >> > standard. >> > >> > -- >> > Regards, >> > >> > Derek >> > >> > --000000000000918fb8058959b19b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If the project is non urgent and is not commercial in con= fidence, i could probably add support to the gerber parser used in translat= e2geda and translate2coralEDA if i had example files to work with.

Erich.

On Tue, 21 May 2019 08:22= Erich Heinzle, <a1039181 AT gmail DOT co= m> wrote:
= Pcb elegance's pcb layout tool "pcb" will also import gerbers= , not just viewplot, it seems. You won't need the polygonal flashed ape= rture support of viewplot for a 1990s board, for non round pibs, i suspect.= Try impirting directly into the layout tool, then exporting. Failing that,= InputGerber.c has most of the code you need.

Erich.


On Mon, 20 May 2019 17:58 Derek Stewart (derek AT q40 DOT de) [via g= eda-user AT delorie DOT com], <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
<= /div>
Hi Erich,

PCB Elegance uses Viewplot 2.0, which did load the RS-274D Gerber
correctly, but I need to pay 600 Euros for a Licence key to save the
Gerber files in RS-274X format.

I will try your utilities, I was hoping Gerbv could lod in the older
Gerber file format.

Regards,

Derek

On 19/05/2019 18:30, Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via=
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
> The now open source tool "pcb elegance" gerber load code app= ears to cope
> with gerber aperture files. You may be able to load up the old gerbers=
> and aperture files and then attempt export of rs-274x gerbers from pcb=
> elegance.
>
> Once you have rs-274x gerbers, they xan be turned intoa footprint with=
> translate2geda or translate2coralEDA for loading into gEDA pcb or into=
> pcb-rnd.
>
> I managed to get pcb elegance running under wine on lubuntu. Their > gerber viewing tool seems to cope better with loading polygonal flashe= d
> apertures than the pcb tool, but this should not be an issue for a 199= 0s
> rs-274d board iiuc.
>
> Failing that, i could try to add the ability to load an aperture file = in
> conjunction with a gerber file in my utilities translate2geda and
> translate2coralEDA (available on github).
>
> translate2coralEDA exports proper padstacks for pcb-rnd with polygonal=
> pad definitions, allowing round rect, obround, square, rect, circular,=
> etc pads, which may not be an issue for a 1990s board, but, you may be=
> able to take advantage of the padstack prototypes in pcb-rnd to add > drills to all padstacks of the same geometry, for example, in one fell=
> swoop, since a gerber layer will not include drill information.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Erich
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 19 May 2019 18:18 Derek Stewart (derek AT q40 DOT de
> <mailto:derek AT q40 DOT de>) [via geda-user AT del= orie.com
> <mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com>], <geda-user AT delorie DOT com
> <mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com>> wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi,
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I have an old computer project designed in the late= 1990s, for a 68060
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0single board computer, I used to produce, from Gerb= er files in RS-274D.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0But not many PCB manufacturers use the RS-274D form= at.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The Gerber files were produced in PCAD for DOS, whi= ch I have never
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0found
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0an implementation of PCAD, Protel, Tango PCB or Alt= ium Designer to read
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the binary PCB files.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I would like to make some more PCBs, but I only hav= e the RS-274D Gerber
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0files, what is hte best way to convert them to RS-2= 74X or more modern
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0standard.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Regards,
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Derek
>
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