X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=65rWsdyDWhlyxjJTwS2Lo8ku/5T8bVowUo3MuA7r5EU=; b=FeiQ9CrdgoyTVGMpdm3PsX94bI6YRFxabf72zt+1Um1BS49ap9opaSaH5cOtSaoRrT /yqjs22bmTFVFHt2ICg5apGlzuK2oT2fAm20cGFjXKsz7Mv1wi8CIli/Rm/m4tAXyXA4 L6Pi/k2efLBz4/u5VvaZUdIOdrdrTUVP/rtr3O0HHBj1kwVsjfOZUyRBm86/X1P8sPXh byn1xRfD4Ai62+ZIicUCyv4HNHGnwaWEfGgGa+Ht6pKeGexWMHiGTN7UuPK/jVHIb/k4 DuX5Wg9idk9CDjCLlCLwUEkiAfkcUcFLgsgNuP4jshJ3Z6TYkh0W1kAL3DjrsDxdC4uk 5SXw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=65rWsdyDWhlyxjJTwS2Lo8ku/5T8bVowUo3MuA7r5EU=; b=SdO2m+iqDBUC5qf+aHWGDf3tC2inl6c9/eoKPdalIN4ITjtU7FrW2WitvZ69y9Yzeq Pk/uCihKLHQ+jwvSEl2AuWFXhvIIOwnhfQwKk0opJhv6MN+VtZUIhEvTq6bpnvpH4oZo 6+9LIUXlJUgMK68muLsPGq3jlsvRse+UtcGHH81X+QOIPKcu2aSPK2CjMSYkGZzgdToY F7C5Clw+BQJ971wWSDQQgaT2GcOln5xbHS4+TP/xbP5GQSPQ+zE3YCoGuxu6mnQq8+DE lLxDvLe3qiIe5H1XZdWna0MUYwKh2bBiTsuX1N6q18N+JFORrukZffoBW3HZuvmRQk6E 0DlA== X-Gm-Message-State: AHQUAuajvIytAi5fQTYBV8Q55BEoYw1GjhMYWkyD1oCIb4qeGn6C8YFx 6CSd4QObV/4IEYGwA2cd0Kufu3XYqPuVym5xaXLHpw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AHgI3IbWXpuJwRUhgn1AMWG3BJ95EaGewGZgOQUcsog/E8n8elicvA2gsas3jOmV+MJuC6CAtNXcIgEf+U7h93WWPIE= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:84c7:: with SMTP id x7mr20741738pfn.180.1549748249801; Sat, 09 Feb 2019 13:37:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: "Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 16:37:18 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] Problem changing hole size. To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ebb8c005817ce1e2" Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com --000000000000ebb8c005817ce1e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Girvin- Usually "Mode1" is like, the windows key, or the command key on a mac, I believe. There should be newer versions of the pcb manual available, if you're using a more recent version of pcb, you should probably reference the associated manual. You have a couple of different ways you can deal with this: 1. Select the via, then under the Select menu, there is an option to "change drilling hole of selected objects", and select vias +10 mils. This will work for holes too (they're really still vias under the hood). 2. Modify a route style to create a via with a hole the size you want, place it, and then set the hole flag. 3. According to Info > Key Bindings, you should be able to hit to increase the drill hole size by 5 mils, however, when I try this, the Alt gets captured and interpreted as a request to open a menu by GTK. still works to make it smaller by 5 mils. This is something we need to fix. 4. Create a "footprint"/element with the hole you want, and load it. There may already be some standard sized mounting hole footprints in the library (if there aren't, there should be). Thanks, --Chad On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 4:18 PM Girvin Herr (gherrl AT fastmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > Greetings, > > I am trying to create a mounting hole in my PCB design using PCB 4.1.3. > I first created a via, then used Ctrl-h to change it to a hole. That > seems to have worked. Now I am trying to enlarge the hole for a mounting > screw. The manual I have (Pcb-20110918 by Harry Eaton), page 21, Para. > 3.5.6 Vias, states to use "Mode1v" to enlarge the hole. However, I > do not see where "Mode1" is defined and permutations of Alt-v, Esc-v, > Ctrl-v, etc do not create the correct results (enlarging the hole size > on-screen). Can someone tell me what "Mode1" is or describe how I can > change the hole size of an existing via? > > Thanks. > Girvin Herr > > > --000000000000ebb8c005817ce1e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Girvin-

Usually "Mod= e1" is like, the windows key, or the command key on a mac, I believe.<= /div>

There should be newer versions of the pcb manual a= vailable, if you're using a more recent version of pcb, you should prob= ably reference the associated manual.

You have= a couple of different ways you can deal with this:

1. Select the via, then under the Select menu, there is an option to &quo= t;change drilling hole of selected objects", and select vias +10 mils.= This will work for holes too (they're really still vias under the hood= ).

2. Modify a route style to create a via with a = hole the size you want, place it, and then set the hole flag.

3. According to Info > Key Bindings, you should be able to h= it <Alt-S> to increase the drill hole size by 5 mils, however, when I= try this, the Alt gets captured and interpreted as a request to open a men= u by GTK. <Shift-Alt-S> still works to make it smaller by 5 mils. Thi= s is something we need to fix.

4. Create a "f= ootprint"/element with the hole you want, and load it. There may alrea= dy be some standard sized mounting hole footprints in the library (if there= aren't, there should be).

Thanks,

--Chad

On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 4:18 PM Girvin Herr (gherrl AT fastmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

Greetings,

I am trying to create a mounting hole in my PCB design using PCB 4.1.3. I first created a via, then used Ctrl-h to change it to a hole. That
seems to have worked. Now I am trying to enlarge the hole for a mounting screw. The manual I have (Pcb-20110918 by Harry Eaton), page 21, Para.
3.5.6 Vias, states to use "Mode1<key>v" to enlarge the hole= . However, I
do not see where "Mode1" is defined and permutations of Alt-v, Es= c-v,
Ctrl-v, etc do not create the correct results (enlarging the hole size
on-screen). Can someone tell me what "Mode1" is or describe how I= can
change the hole size of an existing via?

Thanks.
Girvin Herr

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