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Subject: Re: [geda-user] PCB 4.1.3 png export acting weird
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Chad,

I just posted the bug report as #1813849.
If you need anything to help resolve this, please contact me.

Thanks for your help.
Girvin


On 1/29/19 4:31 PM, Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via 
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
> Great! I'm glad we have a working solution for now.
>
> Since you have something that works, I'll look into it some more this 
> weekend.
>
> Cheers,
> --Chad
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 7:08 PM Girvin Herr (gherrl AT fastmail DOT com 
> <mailto:gherrl AT fastmail DOT com>) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com 
> <mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com>] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com 
> <mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com>> wrote:
>
>     Chad,
>
>     Okay, here's what I did. As you suggested, I used the unused
>     "signal2" layer to create a box around the board edge and kept it
>     turned on with the "component" and "solder" layers turned off. In
>     the PNG dialog, I checked the "screen-layout-order" option and
>     that gave me what I want - silkscreen, pins, and outline. If I
>     leave the "screen-layout-order" option unchecked and nothing else
>     changed, then I get everything again - traces from both sides and all.
>
>     So, I thank you for your work-around and I can continue my work
>     wile you get it sorted out. I will look into posting a bug report
>     ASAP.
>
>     Thanks Again.
>     Girvin
>
>
>     On 1/29/19 3:35 PM, Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com
>     <mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com>) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com
>     <mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com>] wrote:
>>     Okay, so, it's not a recent thing. That means I didn't break
>>     anything (that I don't already know about) :)
>>
>>     As a temporary workaround, do you have a spare copper layer?
>>     Maybe you could draw the outline on the spare layer and enable
>>     it. Perhaps that would trick the pads into being drawn while we
>>     get this sorted out.
>>
>>     LaunchPad is the bug tracker that we use:
>>     https://launchpad.net/pcb
>>
>>     Generally common sense applies. Provide enough info so that the
>>     devs can reproduce the problem. The easier you make it for us and
>>     the more specific you can be, the easier it is for us to help you.
>>
>>     Thanks,
>>     --Chad
>>
>>
>>     On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 6:30 PM Girvin Herr (gherrl AT fastmail DOT com
>>     <mailto:gherrl AT fastmail DOT com>) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com
>>     <mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com>] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com
>>     <mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Chad & DJ,
>>
>>         Thanks for your prompt response.
>>
>>         Yes, I have "Only-visible" checked in the PNG dialog. That
>>         was the first thing I did, since the prompt specifically said
>>         "...visible items...", which implies visible on the screen.
>>
>>         I thought I did this before, but my notes from then say to
>>         enable "Component" side to get pads. Otherwise will only get
>>         silkscreen. Sounds familiar. However, that board was a
>>         single-sided board, so it didn't matter, since there were no
>>         traces on the Component side. This new board is a
>>         double-sided board. I just checked and exporting with
>>         "Component" layer turned on will produce the top silk, pins
>>         and both component and solder layer traces, which still is
>>         not what I want. I don't want the traces for this export.
>>         According to the PNG file date on that single-sided board, it
>>         was February of 2015. So, this process was giving me problems
>>         that far back at least.
>>
>>         I have never used LaunchPad before or filed a bug report. How
>>         do I do that? Is there a process document I can read to do
>>         it? If so, where can I find it?
>>
>>         Thanks again.
>>         Girvin
>>
>>
>>         On 1/29/19 2:39 PM, Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com
>>         <mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com>) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com
>>         <mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com>] wrote:
>>>         It does appear that the pins and pads not being drawn. Did
>>>         this ever work for you? Did it break recently?
>>>
>>>         Could you please file a bug report on LaunchPad? I'll take a
>>>         look.
>>>
>>>         On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 5:29 PM DJ Delorie <dj AT delorie DOT com
>>>         <mailto:dj AT delorie DOT com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>             Please make sure you have also checked the
>>>             "only-visible" option in the
>>>             png exporter dialog.
>>>

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    <p>Chad,</p>
    <p>I just posted the bug report as #1813849.<br>
      If you need anything to help resolve this, please contact me.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Thanks for your help.<br>
      Girvin</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/29/19 4:31 PM, Chad Parker
      (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>] wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAJZxidCU-w=PLqAjXvT6Vvx42XQ4NAxdPi9LWH+4sj42tZMyjg AT mail DOT gmail DOT com">
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      <div dir="ltr">
        <div>Great! I'm glad we have a working solution for now. <br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Since you have something that works, I'll look into it some
          more this weekend.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Cheers,</div>
        <div>--Chad<br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 7:08
          PM Girvin Herr (<a href="mailto:gherrl AT fastmail DOT com"
            moz-do-not-send="true">gherrl AT fastmail DOT com</a>) [via <a
            href="mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" moz-do-not-send="true">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>]
          &lt;<a href="mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com"
            moz-do-not-send="true">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
          0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
            <p>Chad,</p>
            <p>Okay, here's what I did. As you suggested, I used the
              unused "signal2" layer to create a box around the board
              edge and kept it turned on with the "component" and
              "solder" layers turned off. In the PNG dialog, I checked
              the "screen-layout-order" option and that gave me what I
              want - silkscreen, pins, and outline. If I leave the
              "screen-layout-order" option unchecked and nothing else
              changed, then I get everything again - traces from both
              sides and all.<br>
            </p>
            <p>So, I thank you for your work-around and I can continue
              my work wile you get it sorted out. I will look into
              posting a bug report ASAP.</p>
            <p>Thanks Again.<br>
              Girvin</p>
            <p><br>
            </p>
            <div class="gmail-m_8606545683239727187moz-cite-prefix">On
              1/29/19 3:35 PM, Chad Parker (<a
                class="gmail-m_8606545683239727187moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                href="mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</a>)
              [via <a
                class="gmail-m_8606545683239727187moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                href="mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>] wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <div dir="ltr">
                <div>Okay, so, it's not a recent thing. That means I
                  didn't break anything (that I don't already know
                  about) :)<br>
                </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>As a temporary workaround, do you have a spare
                  copper layer? Maybe you could draw the outline on the
                  spare layer and enable it. Perhaps that would trick
                  the pads into being drawn while we get this sorted
                  out.<br>
                </div>
                <div dir="ltr"><br>
                </div>
                <div>LaunchPad is the bug tracker that we use:<br>
                </div>
                <div dir="ltr"><a href="https://launchpad.net/pcb"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://launchpad.net/pcb</a><br>
                </div>
                <div dir="ltr"><br>
                </div>
                <div>Generally common sense applies. Provide enough info
                  so that the devs can reproduce the problem. The easier
                  you make it for us and the more specific you can be,
                  the easier it is for us to help you.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Thanks,</div>
                <div>--Chad<br>
                </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
              </div>
              <br>
              <div class="gmail_quote">
                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 29, 2019
                  at 6:30 PM Girvin Herr (<a
                    href="mailto:gherrl AT fastmail DOT com" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">gherrl AT fastmail DOT com</a>) [via
                  <a href="mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>]
                  &lt;<a href="mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt;
                  wrote:<br>
                </div>
                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px
                  0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                  rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
                    <p>Chad &amp; DJ,</p>
                    <p>Thanks for your prompt response.<br>
                    </p>
                    <p>Yes, I have "Only-visible" checked in the PNG
                      dialog. That was the first thing I did, since the
                      prompt specifically said "...visible items...",
                      which implies visible on the screen.<br>
                    </p>
                    <p>I thought I did this before, but my notes from
                      then say to enable "Component" side to get pads.
                      Otherwise will only get silkscreen. Sounds
                      familiar. However, that board was a single-sided
                      board, so it didn't matter, since there were no
                      traces on the Component side. This new board is a
                      double-sided board. I just checked and exporting
                      with "Component" layer turned on will produce the
                      top silk, pins and both component and solder layer
                      traces, which still is not what I want. I don't
                      want the traces for this export. According to the
                      PNG file date on that single-sided board, it was
                      February of 2015. So, this process was giving me
                      problems that far back at least.<br>
                    </p>
                    <p>I have never used LaunchPad before or filed a bug
                      report. How do I do that? Is there a process
                      document I can read to do it? If so, where can I
                      find it?</p>
                    <p>Thanks again.<br>
                      Girvin<br>
                    </p>
                    <p><br>
                    </p>
                    <div
class="gmail-m_8606545683239727187gmail-m_1362729497396179040moz-cite-prefix">On
                      1/29/19 2:39 PM, Chad Parker (<a
class="gmail-m_8606545683239727187gmail-m_1362729497396179040moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                        href="mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</a>)
                      [via <a
class="gmail-m_8606545683239727187gmail-m_1362729497396179040moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                        href="mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>]
                      wrote:<br>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <div dir="ltr">
                        <div>It does appear that the pins and pads not
                          being drawn. Did this ever work for you? Did
                          it break recently?<br>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Could you please file a bug report on
                          LaunchPad? I'll take a look.<br>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">
                        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan
                          29, 2019 at 5:29 PM DJ Delorie &lt;<a
                            href="mailto:dj AT delorie DOT com" target="_blank"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">dj AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt;
                          wrote:<br>
                        </div>
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                          "only-visible" option in the<br>
                          png exporter dialog.<br>
                        </blockquote>
                      </div>
                    </blockquote>
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