X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="2BSXDCIEOFWLRXREQJPAXnhgwp" MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: GWP-Draft X-Originator: 78.11.203.93 X-FactoryStamp: H--- Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 11:28:42 +0200 X-Draft-Variant: reply X-Draft-Parentmailid: e14f927b9c3bf5034d2f40f8 X-Draft-Contenttype: text/html Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Odp=3A_Re=3A_=5Bgeda-user=5D_Opengl_PCB_and_mainline_PCB_-_pcb-rnd_aspects?= From: "michalwd1979 (michalwd1979 AT o2 DOT pl) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: =?UTF-8?Q?geda-user=40delorie=2Ecom?= Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <> References: <647dca2ad89a4415ad980da6e5cdc701 AT grupawp DOT pl> <7da892c189bd49838d6ce6eb2c2628e4 AT grupawp DOT pl> <7e30777e38284644814271a68f2c2119 AT grupawp DOT pl> <00430c5cbe794d57918e5e9c532d436f AT grupawp DOT pl> X-WP-MailID: c2b6c22dd9fd56e6be6806dda281bea8 X-WP-AV: skaner antywirusowy Poczty o2 X-WP-SPAM: NO 0000010 [UfOk] Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --2BSXDCIEOFWLRXREQJPAXnhgwp Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hello Igor, You were right, somehow Yours mails end up in "spam" = - I'm trying to fix "poczta.o2"=C2=A0 filters now, but it seems= that spam is worth checking form time to time. Anyway: I'm using svn= myself, so working with it is not a problem. With fresh compiled pcb-rnd, = 1024 resistors board and full screen window I have: dash_freq=3D0, benchma= rk 15.6 (15.2 to 16.1) dash_freq=3D1, benchmark 15.0 (14.3 to 15.6) dash_= freq=3D5, benchmark 14.3 (13.5 to 14.9) dash_freq=3D-1, benchmark 16.5 (15= .8 to 17) It seems that GUI does not let me set dash_freq to -1 (resets i= t to 0 - maybe wrong limits?), I had to use -c appearance/.... to get it ri= ght. With my board and dash_freq at -1 I'm getting benchmark ~=3D 0.6= (0.4 for dash_freq=3D5). My board should not have "padstack problem= 4;, I did not needed any strange pads or pins, so I never used many on top = on each other. Turing of padstak marks and padstack layers improves benchma= rk to 1, but visually improvement is minimal. While I haven't abused = silk screens before I can see Yours point. For me the big bounding box now = and later dedicated keep-outs would be really nice feature. When compari= ng Yours 1024 resistors board to my (with only ~320 elements) I've noti= ced that Yours board do not have refdes numbers printed. Maybe this is the = main factor? On by board turning subcircuits ON/OFF and also Subc.parts mea= ns massive difference in speed. It seems that these two layers also control= displaying element names (black and red). If=C2=A0 I change view->Displ= ayed subcircuits ID from "refdes" to "refdes+value" speed d= rops about 2x, so it seems that amount of printed text is really important.= Best Regards, Michael Widlok =C2=A0 Dnia 15 maja 2018 15:55 mich= alwd1979 < gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu > napisa=C5=82(a): Hello Michael, = On Tue, 15 May 2018, michalwd1979 ( michalwd1979 AT o2 DOT pl ) [via geda-user@= delorie.com ] wrote: Hello Igor, Have You received any mail from me rec= ently? I'm not sure what about the missing test You mentioned last tim= e. Yup, I've even answered with resending the original test request. = This suggests we have some sort of mailing problem... Maybe my mail had = some part that your mailing system classified as spam so when I tried to r= esend it we ended up with the same filtering. Fortunately it is available= in the mailing list arch: www.delorie.com www.delorie.com Thank you in= advance! Best regards, Igor2=0D --2BSXDCIEOFWLRXREQJPAXnhgwp Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Hello Igor,

You were right, somehow Yours mails end up in "spam" - I= 'm trying to fix "poczta.o2"  filters now, but it seems that spam is w= orth checking form time to time. Anyway:

I'm using svn myself, so wo= rking with it is not a problem. With fresh compiled pcb-rnd, 1024 resistors= board and full screen window I have:
dash_freq=3D0, benchmark 15.6 (15.= 2 to 16.1)
dash_freq=3D1, benchmark 15.0 (14.3 to 15.6)
dash_freq=3D5= , benchmark 14.3 (13.5 to 14.9)
dash_freq=3D-1, benchmark 16.5 (15.8 to = 17)
It seems that GUI does not let me set dash_freq to -1 (resets it to= 0 - maybe wrong limits?), I had to use -c appearance/.... to get it right.=

With my board and dash_freq at -1 I'm getting benchmark ~=3D 0.6 (0= .4 for dash_freq=3D5). My board should not have "padstack problem", I did n= ot needed any strange pads or pins, so I never used many on top on each oth= er. Turing of padstak marks and padstack layers improves benchmark to 1, bu= t visually improvement is minimal.
While I haven't abused silk screens = before I can see Yours point. For me the big bounding box now and later ded= icated keep-outs would be really nice feature.

When comparing Yours= 1024 resistors board to my (with only ~320 elements) I've noticed that You= rs board do not have refdes numbers printed. Maybe this is the main factor?= On by board turning subcircuits ON/OFF and also Subc.parts means massive d= ifference in speed. It seems that these two layers also control displaying = element names (black and red). If  I change view->Displayed subcirc= uits ID from "refdes" to "refdes+value" speed drops about 2x, so it seems t= hat amount of printed text is really important.

Best Regards,
Mic= hael Widlok

 


<= p>Dnia 15 maja 2018 15:55 michalwd1979 <gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu> napisa=C5=82(a):

Hello Michael,

On Tue, 15 May 2018, michalwd1979 (michalwd1979 AT o2 DOT pl) [via = geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:

Hello Igor,

Have You receive= d any mail from me recently? I'm not sure what about the
miss= ing test You mentioned last time.

Yup, I've even answered with resending the original test request.

This suggests we have some sort of mailing problem... = Maybe my mail had
some part that your mailing system classifi= ed as spam so when I tried to
resend it we ended up with the = same filtering.

Fortunately it is available in= the mailing list arch:


Thank you in advance!
=

Best regards,

Igor2

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