X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NlccDXTiz0vYia5hGhaYZ4MP7gya/jnrohbV79ARHRQ=; b=oD/wwHYxZHK+bI1tZqiQb+An0YbGd4VCxPIj7ZJBpnGr07rw3/KU1hhYZqRbK0h2/o /SqWlmSodzNTnrD3/wm10gWfM1U2olA76Viw1ClheLYu9dnr5dheuTOk4wzzBlFHU45d LfeVp5xOiITj+8jxSQwpQxMMEHbYTp7LVAi9bQUDBjrO6X9XK9u5ctkDfJj49f2q34tj D6D4v5gyMILnYzmvzMKRujih8GQTQdST/TYm4W+oxA4IIBjOP1FV1h62w+lYfzacL1tb VUfYCVHsCdvQtHSWtjMpSg+CraGVSorYtVYeG4IwYNtcbCxcYcD7QJ9fK55uH5NxSehs Ozpw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NlccDXTiz0vYia5hGhaYZ4MP7gya/jnrohbV79ARHRQ=; b=Uap8gP/eNr9EnrmT7x5uclnBfQyqHN3mpImkqiOKJ4y9jOBN46Hq9xERxW/LtgUBMs xeRBh9OsNbk5/aP5BwqzPtwHSUcQxv0lwYy7WCVMwfkQVtYWdKwux4tjg/9y4BoZyfH1 5H9sAQ9pg8YPgSb/6a++IOEMrK09850GEHrz15MooLeL6JPOfwzgSSpyaCrIsJel+fmS IghEElFJ8Bt7KR8VIOjPAUuFEcYk3ih2WZ0XFLRXd+r1T1thdbYNTz/CiS/QiN61HK/t 4FVhfA5LNVwOPJrO3h5cSid0HzeJmc7xecQshbmMlTPhYF4seshMYM/wn6YssNWnCjzI 0XYw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mI1vSV+L3NjuvJtOWEJj5aySyyFGqOlQzlOhMvT6oiF2nfunXGe /fkzZ7Nkn/80Ub8hqHurvzyq9g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBoufBDBOes84W44JanrWCq51ajtvQEvUBY4SMj7blonb5bEHBiSwxYfYofPkjEf6vcHiSaxB5A== X-Received: by 10.25.81.141 with SMTP id g13mr12753188lfl.58.1514295660284; Tue, 26 Dec 2017 05:41:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2017 14:40:57 +0100 From: "Nicklas Karlsson (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] why pinnumber in sym pins? Message-Id: <20171226144057.9ee596760a7026fd8f4622d0@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20171226122009.366BF804CEDE@turkos.aspodata.se> References: <20171226122009 DOT 366BF804CEDE AT turkos DOT aspodata DOT se> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 26 Dec 2017 13:20:09 +0100 (CET) karl AT aspodata DOT se wrote: > Why must one have a pinnumber attribute for each pin i a sym file: > http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:master_attributes_list#pinnumber > > Wouldn't it suffice to have pinseq and pinlabel ? I think pinlabel would suffice. pinseq is needed for footprint and if I got it correct in cschem they use some kind of mapping mechanism for this so it's not part of the symbol. > Wouldn't it be useful to allow to have just a function (pinlabel) > attached to the pin without knowing which pinnumber it will end up on ? Yes it would if there is a mapping mechanism. I think I only use pinlabel fo hierachical drawings. It's hard to distinguish between two pins with same label and different pin numbers. The visible label is essentially a rather good identifier for pin since schematics are read by humans. Pinlabel as default identifier and pinnumber for the unusual case then there is a need to distinguish between pins with same label might be useful but I do not know about any case. > E.g. dc/dc converters with single output usually have four pins > +/-Vin and +/-Vout in all sorts of packages where the pinnumber (from > the datasheet) can be anything but 1,2,3,4, but their pin names are > +/-Vin/Vout. So, it would be nice if one could map sym -> fp with > just the "pinlabel" (gschem) -> pin "Name" (pcb). But pcb doesn't seem > to support that idea. Agree. > Any suggestions or pointers ? Look at cschem or write your own mapping mechanism. > Regards, > /Karl Hammar