X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jr0i540JKLEeXS4Apk3bclauhpuUGO6m2+YGHlrI+Zc=; b=X+U0y+0yhP/wVDWe/azi+DFLbKuBF674S/Uw0KmM5jSC41wkj9hjFlkiGdgrnBbMJp UiAn6MXzHqvI8VYP9GqG+gzD1fLHyFVWUAEg0bdz4xa407w6UMfyK/4Pb/m4BA6o+QIm du5dW+OwC2aajLb5j3990rpHMKMgUbQANfIybMdYP2GwzfpSgI9MIAp+bT5CLJwE1Q3b OwiXvx0qylkPkHU8zWbgC6gOTBJJ3RFg54V2WCBNZh2VGkgvWnmQ9Ouoh6fyOpw9GuVN kbYGCPcx3SfK+I6mETNU9+WS+qoXIPijhvDRkZMuDAI0QN4FYIJQe9YPg/bcMZSFXhNa PmOw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jr0i540JKLEeXS4Apk3bclauhpuUGO6m2+YGHlrI+Zc=; b=g/1auDIJvxTDYDRMiFyaeHG5quhelDQVuo8vbwuffTllMaqNclf34IHm0bmcm9zZHQ Dt8wJwmCU3Fl+xCntxt4zYhnIIa/edvzN62yOvQuwZov2jdXR246k5PApzMypjgK34DR 1F5r1nfLcsxHLWbmt31h1jzVyTk+RBG7sj7HxaPpIY/Vnz+or/OO/WDm0GdkDCOI2yTl txUcUok6ef6rmtvISZ9k5KOGUuYd/SwL10r2mKDNX0UsLL5iCTDj9Gqle7PCpcrplNSD 0EjbunJ+ARN8C/t3cdc/+khJRPegRV6Xbo0uPZF/skx3iUfXUm44QCxrz5HoJbH5dqj5 KGjA== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H1fklOAjuCE84vjyhdIh2AB2WOdpWqBi7HvHVL+ByUCxycz5Z8H419hEOjNMShsiQ== X-Received: by 10.25.181.194 with SMTP id g63mr164858lfk.47.1490891218570; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 09:26:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 18:26:55 +0200 From: "Nicklas Karlsson (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] No support for solder paste in pcb file format ? Message-Id: <20170330182655.91a8f3e1f328bd0becb1ca3f@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20170327154129 DOT 68029809DB6C AT turkos DOT aspodata DOT se> <20170328132437 DOT 46A6B809DB6C AT turkos DOT aspodata DOT se> <20170329182946 DOT ae2033e7ec476c9f1ddd35f3 AT gmail DOT com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk > > > > >> John Luciani: > > > > >> > I create stencil footprints with the same basename as > > > > >> > the component footprint and a ".sfp" extension. I have > > > > >> > a script that parses the pcb and identifies all components > > > > >> > that have a stencil footprint. > > > > > > > > I couldn't find this script on your page. Could you please post or > > link? > > > > > > > > > > The script isn't quite ready for prime-time. > > > > But you tell why these scipts are good? > > > > > The current script identifies the footprints that should be changed when > generating gerbers for a stencil. The completed script will perform the > replacement. To put it another way. Is it better to generate paste layer from a script than manually editing each footprint? > > > > >> as thin line silk for checking or write the pads to the sfp file. > > > > >> > > > > >> Do you have any specific file format for your sfp files ? > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I just make them as normal footprints. For example - the stencil > > > > footprint > > > > > below is for a Cree XP-G LED -- > > > > > > > > > > Element[0x0 "LED" "" "" 0 0 9996 2996 0 100 0x0] > > > > > ( > > > > > Pad[-5511 -5511 -5511 5511 1968 2000 2968 "" "1" 0x0100] > > > > > Pad[5511 -5511 5511 5511 1968 2000 2968 "" "2" 0x0100] > > > > > Pad[-492 -3937 492 -3937 2952 2000 3952 "" "3" 0x0100] > > > > > Pad[-492 0 492 0 2952 2000 3952 "" "3" 0x0100] > > > > > Pad[-492 3937 492 3937 2952 2000 3952 "" "3" 0x0100] > > > > > ElementLine[7996 -2484 7996 -7996 1000] > > > > > ElementLine[7996 -7996 -7996 -7996 1000] > > > > > ElementLine[-7996 -7996 -7996 -2484 1000] > > > > > ElementLine[7996 2484 7996 7996 1000] > > > > > ElementLine[7996 7996 -7996 7996 1000] > > > > > ElementLine[-7996 7996 -7996 2484 1000] > > > > > ElementArc[-7996 -10496 500 500 0 360 1000] > > > > > ) > > > > The *.sfp files are used to define shapes for solder paste? > > > > The shapes define openings in a stencil. Then the shapes end up on the "stencil" layer, I think "paste" layer is a common name for this layer. > > > For thermal pads I always use the grid. I have seen a lot of production > > > problems. Bridging and misalignments. On these large pads I use a grid > > > which reduces the coverage to between 50 - 60%. > > > > You use a grid because there will be production problems for a solid shape? > > > > Yes. I have seen bridging and misalignments. All of the components that > I have used (with thermal pads) have recommended stencil openings > as well as footprints. I either follow the datasheet recommendation or > the manufacturer application notes. I do not perfectly understand this, do you have an example for example datasheet or application note? Regards Nicklas Karlsson