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On 02/15/2017 12:46 PM, John Doty wrote:
>> That kind of setup would attract more users that don't want to code
>> on the tools, just use them, (and test them…).
>
> I can’t understand why any such users would choose gEDA. It’s like
> someone who hates going outdoors in the cold buying a pair of skis.

   Hogwash!  In fact, I think you'll find most, perhaps nearly all gEDA 
users fall into that category.  YOU don't, and that's ok.

   gEDA has great strengths other than simply "being a toolkit".  In 
fact, it has great strengths that have nothing at all to do with the 
fact that "it's a toolkit".

   John, you consistently see the world through blinders of your own use 
cases, and then you make loud assertions based on that view.  You 
frequently present these assertions in the form of "dad has arrived, all 
of you clueless kids listen up".

   Why?

               -Dave

-- 
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA