X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=ddQQ3tgPp/ZDE1bXJriPDwSXTEyGb/FQZFGL+wBUQks=; b=lNAWAfh52l38+9m7On7BHCU0kkcWMFgVxPibP3j8PVhtrSxeyiQ++8hR522h1PeIem kOoluicBae8Njn3Eg6cX8rveMu187VjIzECd4Ksq13Z3JVU0EQJr+H6GDgLPhGKo4iwl cercJHzMK7l+9DEVWjEUPFbWFdWwb9jbtN2Iu/xJbNyfCQUgRaYHMWhdfdg9EVgV8zQC g73Ij0VmvW8Q5Bn8WjVAc2NaAd/mm6gfceNag18HiEixAATaijzRIxN6aHNWnViYovv6 BGiY64F0bwu6O2XKGtHr459DcVgdQ+a17WccOgPMwJmHErzGytuLTZclI/HIPzQEE+20 nOEg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to :references:mime-version:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=ddQQ3tgPp/ZDE1bXJriPDwSXTEyGb/FQZFGL+wBUQks=; b=nwNjuxCJXUaD7prVX9/8g0g34Q5LwdKdq6F5gkPcY0HBMq/4vVHyhvN4HnjJJB+rpl JcMR4h1BqAfEzAqgVZ7l/GjLaBgcao1tdh0VoKVVs6Sz11o1TWOWnYA1hNLC+UW06a56 jV4NTXcIhauYdtDQXBKAG+35DBnJTC5jSE9+2sg4XH1y+2C+zzbQLQw+YD+TdGRNCv/q EKONdbEjF/eqv9VUKE85qrT+rtcckxqtgDeBvrOVAwspDdxM4I0JmH5DtBzcoYAbUmyO 4fIF2m++wG9OJYznQ0MYmrVjQh6KXS5crLtpzMyZQNFlNn9wDCH7HVkN4PhFohihfrjc ORqQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39lF5W33KVBtlYsD0StiWw0HLqJpHoSfG1lkq17Wmj/8en5OgYp2EwfZl6NN4mpK8A== X-Received: by 10.25.40.4 with SMTP id o4mr5241672lfo.1.1486890072194; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 01:01:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:01:09 +0300 From: "Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: gEDA User Mailing List Subject: Re: [geda-user] gnetlist chaos Message-ID: <20170212090109.GA450@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: gEDA User Mailing List References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 03:59:28PM +0000, Peter Clifton (petercjclifton AT googlemail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > Hi John, > > On 11 February 2017 at 15:09, Roland Lutz wrote: > > > On Sat, 11 Feb 2017, John Doty wrote: > > > >> I wish Roland would not call his program gnetlist. > >> > > > > It is gnetlist. Why call it by a different name? > > > > > The xorn netlist invocation is "gnetlist2". "gnetlist" is still the same, > runs scheme back-ends etc.. (as usual). It was so before the commit http://git.geda-project.org/geda-gaf/commit/?id=acb41e99cd3c6b58add04313504a989d6cfcd68e Roland pushed it just after I stated clearly on the list that I'll work on C/Scheme part and gnetlist refactoring and actually started it: http://git.geda-project.org/geda-gaf/commit/?id=ee29aa57a0b348fb7f1a42d7664abfeb2fe4a2df I tried xorn several times but it broke my work with REPL and rc-configuration (you know I use several scripts in Scheme, some of which have been published on github). Requiring to use some variable in rc-files to enable "old gnetlist" behaviour is a "good step" by Roland to effectively hide it from users because some of them just don't know of it and some are lazy. I didn't want a fight and leaved things as is until we have a consensus on how to collaborate further. > > > > It’s based on a completely new foundation (“xorn”: don’t ask me what that > >> is or what it does, it’s very murky to me). > >> > > > > > Probably best to look at what it is before passing comment. As I understand > it, none of the existing gEDA code is actually impacted by this - it is a > parallel tool. See above. The first point is good anyway. Though I would like you to follow it, too ;-) -- Vladimir