X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_28A3EA79-865F-4760-A90D-262F8D0235D3"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] gnetlist chaos X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail From: John Doty In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:14:46 -0700 Message-Id: <0D03FED9-A309-4F6C-9863-0EC6DB35176D@noqsi.com> References:

To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_28A3EA79-865F-4760-A90D-262F8D0235D3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_88018E89-6928-4696-BE44-649B4FF00650" --Apple-Mail=_88018E89-6928-4696-BE44-649B4FF00650 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Feb 11, 2017, at 8:59 AM, Peter Clifton = (petercjclifton AT googlemail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] = wrote: > Hi John, >=20 > On 11 February 2017 at 15:09, Roland Lutz wrote: > On Sat, 11 Feb 2017, John Doty wrote: > I wish Roland would not call his program gnetlist. >=20 > It is gnetlist. Why call it by a different name? >=20 >=20 > The xorn netlist invocation is "gnetlist2". "gnetlist" is still the = same, runs scheme back-ends etc.. (as usual). Last I looked, it depended on which branch you were trying. Roland = consistently calls it =93gnetlist=94, which injects unnecessary = confusion. >=20 > It=92s based on a completely new foundation (=93xorn=94: don=92t ask = me what that is or what it does, it=92s very murky to me). >=20 >=20 > Probably best to look at what it is before passing comment. I have. I can=92t make sense of it. It seems to be a peculiar custom OO = framework for a job that isn=92t naturally OO. It makes Roland very = productive, and that=92s a good thing. However, as far as I can tell, = nobody else understands it well enough to write a back end, unlike = gnetlist proper. > As I understand it, none of the existing gEDA code is actually = impacted by this - it is a parallel tool. I agree, and I think having it as a parallel tool is great. But calling = it gnetlist is sowing confusion. >=20 > Peter John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com --Apple-Mail=_88018E89-6928-4696-BE44-649B4FF00650 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252

On Feb 11, 2017, at 8:59 AM, Peter = Clifton (petercjclifton AT googlemail DOT co= m) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> = wrote:

Hi John,

On 11 February 2017 at = 15:09, Roland Lutz <rlutz AT hedmen DOT org> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017, John Doty = wrote:

I wish Roland would not call his program gnetlist.

It is gnetlist. Why call it by a different name?

The = xorn netlist invocation is "gnetlist2". "gnetlist" is still the same, = runs scheme back-ends etc.. (as = usual).

Last I = looked, it depended on which branch you were trying. Roland consistently = calls it =93gnetlist=94, which injects unnecessary = confusion.

It=92s based on a completely new foundation (=93xorn=94: don=92t ask me = what that is or what it does, it=92s very murky to me).

Probably best to look at = what it is before passing = comment.

I = have. I can=92t make sense of it. It seems to be a peculiar custom OO = framework for a job that isn=92t naturally OO. It makes Roland very = productive, and that=92s a good thing. However, as far as I can tell, = nobody else understands it well enough to write a back end, unlike = gnetlist proper.

As I understand it, none of the existing = gEDA code is actually impacted by this - it is a parallel = tool.

I = agree, and I think having it as a parallel tool is great. But calling it = gnetlist is sowing confusion.

Peter

John Doty Noqsi = Aerospace, Ltd.

http://www.noqsi.com/

jpd AT noqsi DOT com

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