X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-OWM-Source-IP: 86.184.232.39 (GB) X-OWM-Env-Sender: ashton DOT models AT btinternet DOT com X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=10/50,refid=2.7.2:2016.11.18.1217:17:10.433,ip=,rules=__HAS_REPLYTO, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __REFERENCES, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __HAS_FROM, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __IN_REP_TO, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ADDY, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ACC, RCVD_FROM_IP_DATE, __TO_IN_SUBJECT2, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_DOMAIN, __ANY_URI, __HTTPS_URI, __URI_WITH_PATH, __FRAUD_BODY_WEBMAIL, __CP_MEDIA_BODY, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __INT_PROD_ELECTRONIC, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __MULTIPLE_URI_TEXT, __URI_IN_BODY, __FORWARDED_MSG, __NO_HTML_TAG_RAW, BODY_SIZE_1300_1399, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_P1, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, __URI_NS, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, TO_IN_SUBJECT, IN_REP_TO, __MIME_TEXT_P, REFERENCES, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS, MSG_THREAD, LEGITIMATE_SIGNS, LEGITIMATE_NEGATE Subject: Re: [geda-user] COSMAC ELF in gEDA and the power rail problem for logic ICs References: To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com From: "Barry Jackson (zen25000 AT zen DOT co DOT uk) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 00:30:15 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On 24/10/16 03:24, Atommann (atommann AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > Hi, > > Recently I redraw[1] the cosmac elf microcomputer which was from the > Popular Electronics magazine 1976 August issue. And soldered one[2], > it works right away! > > But when I was making it in gEDA I met a problem. For example for the > CD4013 D-type flip-flops symbols, it has built-in VDD and VSS nets. > But the pins for them are now shown. I searched gEDA's mainling list > and people suggested that you can make a symbol which only has the VDD > and VSS pins. > > So I make these power symbols. But pcb says that: > Error! Element U12 pin 14 appears multiple times in the netlist file. > Error! Element U12 pin 7 appears multiple times in the netlist file. > > U12 is CD4013. > > I delete these power symbols and connect VDD to +5V and VSS to GND. > pcb gives me the following warming message. > Warning! Net "+5V" is shorted to net "VDD" > Warning! Net "GND" is shorted to net "VSS" > > Any suggestions? > > Thank you. > > [1] https://github.com/magismoke/cosmac-elf > [2] https://www.flickr.com/photos/atommann/30489781476/in/dateposted-public/ > I had a similar issue with a dual op-amp and the post by John Doty here helped me resolve it. http://www.delorie.com/archives/browse.cgi?p=geda-user/2016/10/06/07:51:04 Barry