X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=TSfH/LQ54epwI96Tw1Ki7qqg8OHYKt+qdayMmGENkpE=; b=seDdVDvq1GVhaldwYk3IHVPEJwzsOh5dt/3VJyFGVS0pmJQFCjVXLoFNwciYAQ+55x awX8YT1AwGYsfx2SF4pqUGk/Z7qA7lZBmUY0IzKSGV5Z4f7T3p5Esmg0veGkWHJWvoDs YylIcvg/4+STKurubkeeBG2n+L0xizrGV9AvwMULkAW1l/SLdUL5FZYOX8snZ505r43T 5JvxzuQI1uKb1xN4wx8acuEVpzpE/2vuWh8vN7doqhje4Kk5Y/+g60sRLPjEFrFO3ydH qEtogtt7U7xDLMM3Z1FCGEvlCkC3n5yEq95IL/cfAWurCYh/pIvf9hLv1tqOcQ+LW062 hQUg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=TSfH/LQ54epwI96Tw1Ki7qqg8OHYKt+qdayMmGENkpE=; b=L2zdc5LmBYn/Fj1Ukx/h+9GTdgjOMUYwwWDVFGhVU0Huu49t76NpQMW4Cz+8LjhRFQ tJ75BWhRL1qf7A2Camjg4yz1J5oACLvD3RKWMKMpdmcMacu8z8dTKx0TmNAGgz9nehTC TquTwBxk9exCFccA0uimE45QOKJ2+ctxxzOKhCMK8farkqt5DtLxa2qFVR7IHTU5ozP7 5Yp4IUwABFFVNi0PuZwW8Jf9/9i1zzaIpF/vXViPVrovlo8DBL0gTwiIiOgNJ9REblxV JyWyai6g0+eHJw1rYlCvFSacLjEq1E4s80pq6aaVy3t8xhCP8YNLFJuKZhqKAVPG/hk/ mWJw== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwN8EWcFHEFog1yj0o4w233JRzFTQKleP+el1TGKPfETpoLOg3GNOtEaXGRwCeOb70DRFAg0Ik8g7sH8Xg== X-Received: by 10.25.142.200 with SMTP id q191mr3641505lfd.1.1473619253669; Sun, 11 Sep 2016 11:40:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160911114111.64709d6b@floyd.freeelectron.net> References: <8885DFA6-76D0-4A2B-B7BE-C1BD9AFFCDD3 AT noqsi DOT com> <20160906171850 DOT 760f1845663014bb2717461d AT gmail DOT com> <20160910203651 DOT 3e03a6ea AT floyd DOT freeelectron DOT net> <20160911085548 DOT 3ff10379 AT floyd DOT freeelectron DOT net> <20160911114111 DOT 64709d6b AT floyd DOT freeelectron DOT net> From: "Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 18:40:52 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] gnet-spice-noqsi documentation To: gEDA users mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 3:41 PM, al davis wrote: > On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 15:23:11 +0200 (CEST) > gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote: > >> No, the real problem is exactly the above, people judging a system >> without even taking a look. This how so many projects are stuck with >> autotools in 2016. > > I think you meant to say .. "Yes, the real problem is ....." > > We all do it. > > It's not just autotools. That's just one example. It's one that is > especially frustrating, and why gnucap uses a simple script and modular > makefiles rather than any of the big configuration systems. There are > branches in git that use autotools and cmake, but they don't work right > so they stay as branches. I did look at others. > > I think the best so far is that simple script and modular makefiles > that gnucap uses, but it is incomplete. > > > Judging a system without taking a look .... Verilog netlists, > including layout and schematic metadata. .... Right here, people > judge without taking a look. It was the number of conversion utilities that were required which put me off that. -- Home http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ Work http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/ -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: GnuPG v2 mQENBFYy4RYBCAC183JomLtbdAlcKiaPDoVHq52LDmVmH75aiEc69m7YxDt54/ai VtYCAobbGVIyn3Hlz3uhF6LnPl/6Lm1VdnCfpwu3KQhCO6ds10ow2C30X4ohCqOd hCVg5C+ILmQkEffFrFODy3ji+PYTF4pADvHCWsTMv0hf0llwFOJsBCK6cl02IffE JPqy4PjM1nZ9HpzT84JBaG/4OGvTZ8SQ2yFUl265jagvygPTf88H1xpZHH1r8dB1 stjUHLmPH8AOyDgKxFchgGeDc3p/vJtgDDIXAFfDXG0NSRovLmtaQdGxe47Zf/go bXiEM7YL2WqQe5zfEA919JxkEwlDKYniOSVzABEBAAG0N0V2YW4gRm9zcyAoVGhp cyBpcyBteSBwdWJsaWMga2V5LikgPGV2YW5mb3NzQGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JATkEEwEC ACMFAlYy4RYCGwMHCwkIBwMCAQYVCAIJCgsEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRCIpQTcE8nN bbBaCACAm8pU5lG1ev2Fsw68Axtcl57SJrYieqX96c3YuYH9JpqMqJRnd9nDKw9X tQuvuH7tUk0VbOaDqReOYJVI/4c5wb9AaOFp6K2DUcupq6XhgXpvz3HzoPwjAdIj XuQzdRUx5+innTJrSkGuBYW/CZ2zqEx4xfLlq4rO0hoTUMR8QVp2cCrkw6BT0m86 APIw/ZnjoxM8IEzr7MxfRIg3qpzrZk28rmhx+k78Jyk61UhwcCPGIm/pjUopTwYJ 3YBdRB2cYD2aN7A1JVf5cRmSQYooHBGpH0kYvomGk97PKqypVuJ7OpG9xM58wUcC qUVt9hKlePLzP8csYjt8onqI7qIIuQENBFYy4RYBCADlH8spG3WkCx62vB5mr5Z0 SCDd/RcyA4A5y5EOj5KurQkrSWpgi9Ho1yKruMJ6blQR2qkc66KqH9pnXDm/ZI1M K/wdW3ngETxBmXoozzFMT89aEWIVR5/PFodWK1elekE9iJxACuR98Zg2QttTD3x8 A9w8VEyMLOXcDTrPFpHegMKswFBg5iuMulAdXAoGejWTI3n+qKFpabHm2Lfs6wjk 5rjucpTdeFK6UeWF1xAvNxXibuu5BlGwv53930qIXRwO/Gn2Rh5DXWxKU2fEIme/ xgQQmIsDeUoWbfybdjw/x7Q0LW4mINiLDQcGHHRQKFIxbAJCT3USPLGh5xwE9/Er ABEBAAGJAR8EGAECAAkFAlYy4RYCGwwACgkQiKUE3BPJzW0uYAf9Hf30n8tM3mR2 Zo6ESE0ivgdgjaJtAWrBUx7JzAzPjBnBOlNnu5Y9lVEqetvUPH6e3PvaHYUuaUU8 0HwxuKBW9nUprgV6uIu1DZmlcp+SxpbuCy7RDpNocRLNWWFMaYYzznmTgfnTgD4D gCq8Mf1mcfrluTkOAo+QNqbMfl1GISClopRqxVuAo59ewgMnFujwgd8w12BwWl24 CzqOs5HqcUslePj+LzcjSNgVCklYwKl+0dsb/fctMOCtHodwqm2CBJ+zydvNmYkD fxda/J91Z1xrah5ec++FL0L4vs+jCiIWJeupJFKlr1hCMZiiGH7W554loK5l4jv3 EY347EidAw== =Ta4p -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----