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On Sun, 11 Sep 2016, al davis wrote:

>
>> On Sat, 10 Sep 2016, al davis wrote:
>>> I don't know what is more disgusting. The fact that people are still
>>> using autotools in 2016 or the fact that no one has come up with
>>> anything better after all these years.
>>
> On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 04:39:35 +0200 (CEST) gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote:
>> Or the fact that when you come up with something better, implement it,
>> prove that it works in multiple project with a long list of obscure
>> systems it's tested on people say it's bad because it's not autotools.
>
> because it really isn't better than autotools.
>
> All of the autotools replacements fail to acknowledge and preserve what
> is good about autotools, and mostly fail to acknowledge and fix the
> problems it has.
>
> good:
> ./configure; make protocol
> the targets are all there
> command line options for packagers
>
> bad:
> code bloat, non-modular, chaotic design
> imposes its chaos all over anything it touches
> bizarre syntax of its own config files
> generated makefile is unreadable
>
>
> Having a list like this is an essential step in making something better.

No, the real problem is exactly the above, people judging a system 
without even taking a look. This how so many projects are stuck with 
autotools in 2016.