X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=mniXpOGx3Spcpa1EHzVUbbWGSz42MdjUqDDZr3E2QPc=; b=NiNe7D6M/AnBFl08msh4hDopAHZQNMTRFj9d0tl4assktPY5fmuphhYHLogrIbjRQ5 hBVYIXgu1lGC/nChtcUhMXtlC5vdnAkFfWxlGtHrlCdHtJgskXg3p6CUL8e8YbqNKqim HvkxfbDBsg7u26jaMUAkFbsvw47x+eWL6eXo+0qYMhM8z9UzBrM+ej9DsYVV17o695he yS2IrerdNlVVjwGZYkhBzhSc4pf3wcMjIxsdhlHcKaceAsANb5AgxOCQylFTeglyudoq RTHGJ6ODm/DmsalndzJi3h4PwnIVyd2K0wmVnQshypMDjHZdiqhfeiDEHKDaMTRtbZp0 Becg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=mniXpOGx3Spcpa1EHzVUbbWGSz42MdjUqDDZr3E2QPc=; b=HocoKXMstojQ7mj0dmjrHjYvai3yWG85ESFbPhnNnV5937EYI6coUI7+mj/pDRJ04u +TycTykCIXq9X47Tzj/76YLQSAqhg+msiWczfPidIzE9XNkmFdIljTq79f2tX5Rmge7r /dHJjjdXaLvo+d4ygTBf35D6gJkSBIbsBflaNpHMHQym/zKX5uwSoiKoQKlvqO0XsHKa o+21uLhMTHtlF6NJlh67x4nJFFORO6ML8zeHHsDp6jI10eOI6fmRpKZYmIlVrXx7/5Lf /Tegxedrtr1evvE/Cv3RrIUjcmVlJDfYUWXjkDObotjC4RD5XMcwL/GQ6Td6Ldynn5hi lyBQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwNWR+pX6J3Ohhxl81LRpzGF2P1yJnauk91+F6e/s/2zB/2oxWQc+V8H+cqzsRxL+ULAyDaHgXBRGaYjZA== X-Received: by 10.46.32.203 with SMTP id g72mr2295999lji.30.1472264292588; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 19:18:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160826171545.2bc54995@floyd.freeelectron.net> References: <57C09C3C DOT 7020708 AT xs4all DOT nl> <20160826171545 DOT 2bc54995 AT floyd DOT freeelectron DOT net> From: "Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 02:18:11 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] Microwave PCB layout simulation or How to eat all your processing power in 3 easy steps To: gEDA users mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 9:15 PM, al davis wrote: > On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 21:45:00 +0200 > "Bert Timmerman (bert DOT timmerman AT xs4all DOT nl) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" > wrote: >> So basically you wish for a Hyperlynx exporter for pcb ;-) > > Good luck getting Mentor (owner of Hyperlynx) to do that. Someone has already written an open source hyperlynx importer for openems. It stands that we could work off of that or ask them were they got documentation for it. Also OpenEMS supports other formating. Hyperlynx was just used in one example. > What you really need is an exporter to gnucap-Verilog, or a plugin for > gnucap to read (and write) the pcb format. > > If somebody wants to write that gnucap plugin, I will help you do it. > How does gnucap-verilog solve this? I thought verilog was just another language for describing netlists and schematic behavior. How does that get us closer to testing a pcb level implementation of a Wilkinson splitter or a distributed element filter? I would think we would need FEM of some kind to extract the relevant properties of the layout and then process them for conversion into verilog? I am not trying to be snotty I really respect your work on gnucap. I just don't understand something. -- Home http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ Work http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/ -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: GnuPG v2 mQENBFYy4RYBCAC183JomLtbdAlcKiaPDoVHq52LDmVmH75aiEc69m7YxDt54/ai VtYCAobbGVIyn3Hlz3uhF6LnPl/6Lm1VdnCfpwu3KQhCO6ds10ow2C30X4ohCqOd hCVg5C+ILmQkEffFrFODy3ji+PYTF4pADvHCWsTMv0hf0llwFOJsBCK6cl02IffE JPqy4PjM1nZ9HpzT84JBaG/4OGvTZ8SQ2yFUl265jagvygPTf88H1xpZHH1r8dB1 stjUHLmPH8AOyDgKxFchgGeDc3p/vJtgDDIXAFfDXG0NSRovLmtaQdGxe47Zf/go bXiEM7YL2WqQe5zfEA919JxkEwlDKYniOSVzABEBAAG0N0V2YW4gRm9zcyAoVGhp cyBpcyBteSBwdWJsaWMga2V5LikgPGV2YW5mb3NzQGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JATkEEwEC ACMFAlYy4RYCGwMHCwkIBwMCAQYVCAIJCgsEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRCIpQTcE8nN bbBaCACAm8pU5lG1ev2Fsw68Axtcl57SJrYieqX96c3YuYH9JpqMqJRnd9nDKw9X tQuvuH7tUk0VbOaDqReOYJVI/4c5wb9AaOFp6K2DUcupq6XhgXpvz3HzoPwjAdIj XuQzdRUx5+innTJrSkGuBYW/CZ2zqEx4xfLlq4rO0hoTUMR8QVp2cCrkw6BT0m86 APIw/ZnjoxM8IEzr7MxfRIg3qpzrZk28rmhx+k78Jyk61UhwcCPGIm/pjUopTwYJ 3YBdRB2cYD2aN7A1JVf5cRmSQYooHBGpH0kYvomGk97PKqypVuJ7OpG9xM58wUcC qUVt9hKlePLzP8csYjt8onqI7qIIuQENBFYy4RYBCADlH8spG3WkCx62vB5mr5Z0 SCDd/RcyA4A5y5EOj5KurQkrSWpgi9Ho1yKruMJ6blQR2qkc66KqH9pnXDm/ZI1M K/wdW3ngETxBmXoozzFMT89aEWIVR5/PFodWK1elekE9iJxACuR98Zg2QttTD3x8 A9w8VEyMLOXcDTrPFpHegMKswFBg5iuMulAdXAoGejWTI3n+qKFpabHm2Lfs6wjk 5rjucpTdeFK6UeWF1xAvNxXibuu5BlGwv53930qIXRwO/Gn2Rh5DXWxKU2fEIme/ xgQQmIsDeUoWbfybdjw/x7Q0LW4mINiLDQcGHHRQKFIxbAJCT3USPLGh5xwE9/Er ABEBAAGJAR8EGAECAAkFAlYy4RYCGwwACgkQiKUE3BPJzW0uYAf9Hf30n8tM3mR2 Zo6ESE0ivgdgjaJtAWrBUx7JzAzPjBnBOlNnu5Y9lVEqetvUPH6e3PvaHYUuaUU8 0HwxuKBW9nUprgV6uIu1DZmlcp+SxpbuCy7RDpNocRLNWWFMaYYzznmTgfnTgD4D gCq8Mf1mcfrluTkOAo+QNqbMfl1GISClopRqxVuAo59ewgMnFujwgd8w12BwWl24 CzqOs5HqcUslePj+LzcjSNgVCklYwKl+0dsb/fctMOCtHodwqm2CBJ+zydvNmYkD fxda/J91Z1xrah5ec++FL0L4vs+jCiIWJeupJFKlr1hCMZiiGH7W554loK5l4jv3 EY347EidAw== =Ta4p -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----