X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=7fI7swexGH3DpfFybYu5BmsvW0p+aaq74PW3A+0BKgE=; b=rVGMTbwz9CYd27I6zv4gLUcgMkon3RRLzswFDUWoFPi9olO97ap4YZncIeYrciZ0M1 HyEL8tln1J4ZpKyeZTtWJ8C858P7s+XDL0ynHmAY5C6RuZWXHWtLJuyV/0U/801IFqHr l4n4ZFONqt84rStKoF0gih6jKWv7TqpEfLwn4/V8W6zUsZMqgDI7Np7bxy6fln+K0N1S yO624cNZph8qnyAeF2GUtWXJsPHgASzySJxWrC3HrDKD1kxoPvWkXf7z9QdGA2bY/DiE a5LYVz6uEGmSGnvR7o0kGfKnM9ogX5K4kF6gfuqbP4yDsxaZSeAtBQ4Jg2ekWtUm8U39 wsDA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=7fI7swexGH3DpfFybYu5BmsvW0p+aaq74PW3A+0BKgE=; b=Ohea+dkN4G986XRsaZfbTLY0UOKa1twxVVQrrM6opNu/0lrB3UN+US/EAjQNQEj+Ty +6Sc0F2IUFKXUbw4YyAx9vTUZ02/lWrAduREnAoEdh0L6G/8EDvKpU3QcqrZebMI+jwY 0K0/G0dIir5xMdI1q6o7EHdAw1Vr/ZoGUDEz90ZBIkVdLTpRRqT5qKo3W98l0jLUoK7b mos4uPkr1j27LUjUeV53CORo2AI6i0BR4zsKF8xXi2Thd8qApIno/COD/rI/0z4Sf7ns jt5Q41S+E5FUC7o/xf4dSbPiXnbU2T2nncpqIopcOioPRN45iRB1J/XPKW06X9fl2PNz qjqA== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkooutGQyYRy8dxDFEj+pAaze6WwAAxbg7uRXKgTRRqfLtoUIwA59E9RFRYei+5IQRfOEEqpu8pC9rKY13qgg== X-Received: by 10.25.201.203 with SMTP id z194mr17733455lff.192.1470186192185; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 18:03:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160802233304.GA2086@recycle.lbl.gov> References: <23abdc31 DOT 72365e7a DOT 572529a9 DOT 212e2 AT o2 DOT pl> <20160801162742 DOT GA27552 AT recycle DOT lbl DOT gov> <20160801184707 DOT 7b3dda2d3c0d13e103a5ec59 AT gmail DOT com> <201608012000 DOT u71K0pN2001967 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20160802233304 DOT GA2086 AT recycle DOT lbl DOT gov> From: "Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 01:03:11 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] Wilkinson splitter - how to implement and use? To: gEDA users mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 11:33 PM, Larry Doolittle wrote: > Evan - > > On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 04:47:05PM -0400, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) >> [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >> > If pcb were modified to honour the flag, I could easily add a "nodrc" flag >> > as discussed to the non-pad line element outputs of the utility. >> I think we need something more subtle than nodrc. Having DRC turned >> off for a specific footprint or any other board area is just as bad as >> having DRC return bogus warnings/errors. > > I agree in general. For the copper structures wished for to handle > star grounds and Wilkinson splitters, we actually want the layer > to exist for DRC purposes, but not for netlist purposes. So a > "nonetlist" flag? Pads need to be distinguished from "connection points" in DRC. Footprints have pads, microwave structures have connection points. There are a lot of differences. >> The reality is that these structures are not footprints but functional >> elements. They have design rules, just very different ones with higher >> orders of complexity. We can't really have pcb process the full >> complexity of these rules across the whole domain from DC to daylight >> (or shorter) because of limitations in processing. It would also >> require a level of developer time which is far past what pcb-* has >> right now. > > Without diving into a more general capability set, this particular tweak > _sounds_ simple enough to me. But my limited experience poking around in > the internals of the existing pcb code base makes me predict it will be > difficult to do without breaking somethings else. Maybe I'll look at > pcb-rnd and see if that looks any more promising. > > - Larry -- Home http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ Work http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/ -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: GnuPG v2 mQENBFYy4RYBCAC183JomLtbdAlcKiaPDoVHq52LDmVmH75aiEc69m7YxDt54/ai VtYCAobbGVIyn3Hlz3uhF6LnPl/6Lm1VdnCfpwu3KQhCO6ds10ow2C30X4ohCqOd hCVg5C+ILmQkEffFrFODy3ji+PYTF4pADvHCWsTMv0hf0llwFOJsBCK6cl02IffE JPqy4PjM1nZ9HpzT84JBaG/4OGvTZ8SQ2yFUl265jagvygPTf88H1xpZHH1r8dB1 stjUHLmPH8AOyDgKxFchgGeDc3p/vJtgDDIXAFfDXG0NSRovLmtaQdGxe47Zf/go bXiEM7YL2WqQe5zfEA919JxkEwlDKYniOSVzABEBAAG0N0V2YW4gRm9zcyAoVGhp cyBpcyBteSBwdWJsaWMga2V5LikgPGV2YW5mb3NzQGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JATkEEwEC ACMFAlYy4RYCGwMHCwkIBwMCAQYVCAIJCgsEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRCIpQTcE8nN bbBaCACAm8pU5lG1ev2Fsw68Axtcl57SJrYieqX96c3YuYH9JpqMqJRnd9nDKw9X tQuvuH7tUk0VbOaDqReOYJVI/4c5wb9AaOFp6K2DUcupq6XhgXpvz3HzoPwjAdIj XuQzdRUx5+innTJrSkGuBYW/CZ2zqEx4xfLlq4rO0hoTUMR8QVp2cCrkw6BT0m86 APIw/ZnjoxM8IEzr7MxfRIg3qpzrZk28rmhx+k78Jyk61UhwcCPGIm/pjUopTwYJ 3YBdRB2cYD2aN7A1JVf5cRmSQYooHBGpH0kYvomGk97PKqypVuJ7OpG9xM58wUcC qUVt9hKlePLzP8csYjt8onqI7qIIuQENBFYy4RYBCADlH8spG3WkCx62vB5mr5Z0 SCDd/RcyA4A5y5EOj5KurQkrSWpgi9Ho1yKruMJ6blQR2qkc66KqH9pnXDm/ZI1M K/wdW3ngETxBmXoozzFMT89aEWIVR5/PFodWK1elekE9iJxACuR98Zg2QttTD3x8 A9w8VEyMLOXcDTrPFpHegMKswFBg5iuMulAdXAoGejWTI3n+qKFpabHm2Lfs6wjk 5rjucpTdeFK6UeWF1xAvNxXibuu5BlGwv53930qIXRwO/Gn2Rh5DXWxKU2fEIme/ xgQQmIsDeUoWbfybdjw/x7Q0LW4mINiLDQcGHHRQKFIxbAJCT3USPLGh5xwE9/Er ABEBAAGJAR8EGAECAAkFAlYy4RYCGwwACgkQiKUE3BPJzW0uYAf9Hf30n8tM3mR2 Zo6ESE0ivgdgjaJtAWrBUx7JzAzPjBnBOlNnu5Y9lVEqetvUPH6e3PvaHYUuaUU8 0HwxuKBW9nUprgV6uIu1DZmlcp+SxpbuCy7RDpNocRLNWWFMaYYzznmTgfnTgD4D gCq8Mf1mcfrluTkOAo+QNqbMfl1GISClopRqxVuAo59ewgMnFujwgd8w12BwWl24 CzqOs5HqcUslePj+LzcjSNgVCklYwKl+0dsb/fctMOCtHodwqm2CBJ+zydvNmYkD fxda/J91Z1xrah5ec++FL0L4vs+jCiIWJeupJFKlr1hCMZiiGH7W554loK5l4jv3 EY347EidAw== =Ta4p -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----