X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wellesley.edu; s=gmail; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=tw4AGNbR4vcBlPr4GQPyhjiyWwV/r1GdJio9GUxC/Xk=; b=U9IFoXsRdgqXhlDBnP4Zq2l+lE/eOzoWLv8RB8r8vkrGrSvC/rRwMEP615LuQnAYzv U5vVlkr1Uj6oFgnb0oaV4kelHhqxe+3649QhcfSS2l789ciLePk6d+lR88VARBQmuyFn W9dIUzQcZLx8KhLHBRIOelsCszkZDnp/geYo+Qowt0ZLbBoPdZb9luOG6jExTepZmqq1 FBWyrRJK8w2iZsCoNNb8IBVjbYvFH+z+RzzWtIpb/Y/3aZ6pUSOdYcf3GsEoltogi2Uu erAWJ38iqjgo75SiySrjsWQ9ERIMrr/G+lQDEcX2+OWp++n70lx4fvrK2S2p981pKU72 N5Ew== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=tw4AGNbR4vcBlPr4GQPyhjiyWwV/r1GdJio9GUxC/Xk=; b=QIoV3421u4RuXbQhraUQ/qIpknOhrY1n4DmU5IztUBwz/mWvCzGvrncfy4ho6eeeHO FFKAlPx+eZvr5nahuklj672o7ZSaiEVbk4U/kw5rPUe1Zwen7xI9WXdXhjS2SUCgxhpJ jmGrEjPEQCHBoygMo/QKeOlggOcyB0xMoUgxxnzgI2pFOgWNih8vQof0f0mGmw+/bHVt gx/wpNaye1FrLKMCHqTV6Ya/PypHQFtL+sZG6b/hvfTfQq4WfhykKZ0+WsodagCYPkUl DH+kpbZhWuHM0qs6I94OLb2hHqci8kPAhtsHlhHc1K1O9ACZitqmpFSVrBErMeIf82r+ YfBg== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouvW6UYNdrEf4hckNqtQUABSqD+FZaf66wBjPx1Yis9Dnp267sllgNOVbUAglLlPsu3L X-Received: by 10.66.123.42 with SMTP id lx10mr87039279pab.95.1469982221175; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 09:23:41 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: Re: [geda-user] Why we lost another user? -> Re: Why we just lost some users? -> Re: [geda-user] Stay or go? From: "James Battat (jbattat AT wellesley DOT edu) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" In-Reply-To: <20160727171710.GB15004@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 10:23:38 -0600 Message-Id: References: <20160727171710 DOT GB15004 AT localhost DOT localdomain> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id u6VGNmN8027223 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk Vladimir, >> Is a functional version for Mac OS X out of scope? Or maybe >> other folks have had success with geda on mac. I have not >> (well, gschem is sort of ok but I can’t get pcb to run on a >> mac). > > No, we just have a disappearingly little support from power Mac > users like those who fixed things on Mac before. Your reports were > helpful (as reports of some *BSD users). There is another part of > the story, as you know. Some underlying libraries used in geda or > pcb, or even their dependences, might have been broken on some > platforms, and therefore again, we need help from Mac users to > learn if this is the case. I would be happy to keep reporting issues. >> >>>> * Lack of coherent documentation for new users like myself to get off the >>>> ground >>> >>> Should we have a manual that breaks down things for people who want >>> the simple answer? Basically instead of trying to explain each tool in >>> the chain but just how to use them in a flow? >> >> Yes, I think that workflow-based tutorials are particularly >> useful, especially for new users. The gschem->gsch2pcb->pcb and >> Your First Board tutorials were particularly helpful to me. But >> they could be brought up to date (such as Import Schematics >> feature). > > Please offer your changes, I'll add them. This will take some time, but I am working on it.