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From: "Bert Timmerman (bert DOT timmerman AT xs4all DOT nl) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
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Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
> Bert Timmerman wrote:
>
>    
>> While I was typing the former email ...
>>
>> I don't use KiCad, nor Eagle, nor other monolithic applications,
>>      
>                                            ^^^^^^^^^^
> For the record, kicad uses completely separate applications for schematic
> capture (eeschema), layout (pcbnew) and view (gerview). All of them can be
> used independently. Kicad users even explicitely export a netlist from
> eeschema. Just like geda's xgsch2pcb there is a GUI called "kicad" which
> manages projects and provides buttons to start the various components of
> the suite.
>
> Seen from this angle, there does not seem use a fundamentally different
> approach. It just happens that using the kicad project manager is the
> work-flow developers endorse as opposed to xgsch2pcb which sort of froze
> many years ago at proof-of-principle stage. Consequently the project
> manager is much more feature complete than xgsch2pcb and feels like the
> natural way to use kicad.
>
>
>    
>> You probably "gain" a "push-and-shove router" in KiCad, so I was told at
>> FOSDEM-2015 (1) and FOSDEM-2016 (2).
>>
>> And recently integration with ngspice was announced ... YMMV
>>      
> There is a nice 3D rendition, too.
>
> The switch from geda to kicad adds the ability to have blind and buried
> vias in your layouts. This allows you to deal more easily with
> BGAs and densely populated boards.
>
> ---<)kaimartin(>---
>    
Hi Kai-Martin,

Older version on my laptop which I hardly use ... thanks for the update.

Kind regards,

Bert Timmerman