X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=5Ajy4F1/FgFNMXf5x7RVJShWHSULMRDokrUDcDg86a4=; b=aI2jw/3k2XoMfo6TMUB15IS13j6p/z8eeojNRao4NwTT1U6yYDeTlawG+QQcNjiwnW XuDsel61uUkspDVB28Js7103yJhAS3axHv8MHSJvVAuX87cIhVIXerfJcN4mY+ww7Ttz 27C45eKiAPHCjfjP68FS8EesWtqXcRx3/4jUtSGCrTAy+c8Y1IJSBGh9l7TZLY2w6ZCK Fcm27pjv2dw7lApBj2MZcLT2P3NiqafvfjzqXnFATO1MuO3AF/M1rrSQgszR0hex3QQG yeAcsmGrWhfEwH4fIRUeBcElF3qu9XvhOqGi2wTlOWk+SzqZPCiugKqdYneq26y5OZf0 ku6w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=5Ajy4F1/FgFNMXf5x7RVJShWHSULMRDokrUDcDg86a4=; b=JRbFJ8jbSfHGpsSYYffngKkgUnkQcxiGTvIiJRgajUZp0cqu8XeafWHCHBvrXw69Ub GMneF4ITBk74nV4LnAbOUjcKMFJlrvDRwRu9EddpI4YyKNQvj0uR6StMBTHR9NMOkURZ hCk5Ds4eVM8aEZQxHy+Vx+To3SQXjc52Cu3C35sORE69S7JLk5ps8peer2K0zyOr7WGW HRbJbFLkj+t1qDgziYuZ2lZhaZ6XCXb1YTgbih/kXePRpZutBVbfcW3oK0k2x0exY6u1 yrD73POYBeXxFsK3JRtF0NQ2oBWNS/rRh49ach9hxmjL5p9zk/ZsQFyCtZJCgYW13oss E3Rg== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoousKFCCakxUU57Dsh8styef2Z+/HEjlnP7wKU0cDTSBRRrdPXYxTbjc/9dHhmDUK/AJcB/S9bbboGRPA4A== X-Received: by 10.36.184.65 with SMTP id m62mr20149514ite.55.1469640434227; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 10:27:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <133fa98c-90f4-0e54-03f1-e85283b18d2b@s5tehnika.net> References: <201607270135 DOT u6R1ZhX1020174 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <66f88f75-8035-1aea-a0de-29fd41ff5d75 AT s5tehnika DOT net> <201607270224 DOT u6R2OjNI024372 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <133fa98c-90f4-0e54-03f1-e85283b18d2b AT s5tehnika DOT net> From: "Peter Clifton (petercjclifton AT googlemail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 18:27:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why we just lost some users? -> Re: [geda-user] Stay or go? To: gEDA User Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c0481be07ae4a0538a15432 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --94eb2c0481be07ae4a0538a15432 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 27 July 2016 at 09:45, Brane2 (brane2 AT s5tehnika DOT net) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > On 27. 07. 2016 04:24, DJ Delorie wrote: > >> Try the lesstif GUI instead of the gtk one (./configure >> --with-gui=lesstif). I designed it to maximize design area. >> > > I don't have lesstif package on gentoo portage tree anymore. But I just > managed to rip that g*d*mn trackball out of gtk-gl backend > and used that area for extra layers and styles. It's not that bad, now > that it has trasnparency and that is much faster than ordinary gtk. > Yes - the trackball (which I added) is somewhat pointless as git HEAD stands right now. A patch to remove it (by option in the GUI preferences) would be welcome I think. My later GL work (not upstream yet) should improve speed further still, and starts to give some Z dimension which makes the track-ball slightly more interesting. It is not - as you note, necessary to use the package! Peter Clifton --94eb2c0481be07ae4a0538a15432 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 27 July 2016 at 09:45, Brane2 (brane2 AT s5tehnika DOT net) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>= wrote:
On 27. 07. 2016 04:24,= DJ Delorie wrote:
Try the lesstif GUI instead of the gtk one (./configure
--with-gui=3Dlesstif).=C2=A0 I designed it to maximize design area.

I don't have lesstif package on gentoo portage tree anymore. But I just= managed to rip that g*d*mn trackball out of gtk-gl backend
and used that area for extra layers and styles. It's not that bad, now = that it has trasnparency and that is much faster than ordinary gtk.

Yes - the trackball (which I added) is somewha= t pointless as git HEAD stands right now. A patch to remove it (by option i= n the GUI preferences) would be welcome I think.

My later= GL work (not upstream yet) should improve speed further still, and starts = to give some Z dimension which makes the track-ball slightly more interesti= ng. It is not - as you note, necessary to use the package!


Peter Clifton

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