X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=QyN6nKDPrRud87ACY8aZMOzBa6EPox9GigwRAjWskRo=; b=J4ffKnBSV5m3sYdOSvrYN0Aox2dqzHHX4V1nKIoLOmG4wvF+eaDKzd6HuoNCLmepT1 vy6hS++z2m8nJ84PrGhoSZg6KrN6bsQZmzVGX0rGkgFiIb+DA2qGz8I/KgQ4DUyRYfOn 9CFeSwewKG7RiPg1ADDLFnOm6LrQZ++qqGU9IIXpX84WH2nzpSNRFXvW37iXn0dDSaAs LuzC652UnKqc068D2Ht4WRzGy2sSRDr4GUmU/Qp3i32pWFa90rCt8JCzmF05Fz6at0ng VvjsjwjBJy9NZv4DcxroBiH9neEGf4AplhI58ck3ihmXOxkMZUDmbY3acJehtmXTnphp 9wRA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=QyN6nKDPrRud87ACY8aZMOzBa6EPox9GigwRAjWskRo=; b=TaxTYdYip1kF2AmUijNNpZoxHchIFAkIGDZCLZJKU61fwbJEwcs3D2KP7XuspG1lG3 Q68NFYSB3HC9pKTVDIdcMCBNa8ifBeemGZkDr6+W96eaA20Q+FYr29+tqYlAH/mVOdq8 KfVei8gMguroifSS5bt3kARWG3HeAqeUHmh0wWb2fSXDCvQgVrB7a/yTsBOX9YwshtlQ I73scGhKuLLuL4y9pibduSi+mXZ3rNHkGNE3iUJZT0gTZLoUHPVbdTG/LArcXVBr6Lky w6AAiU9wQ9JtcydmYQleg4WsXJrm2bxNdlEHm51RulouLbfBvCPEuJEsKwQDgnAGecyK SXvA== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouuY9TnEHKzg+deo04OjF9Y3LJcJWGehRyzu5I6k3Hl1m+Bq+S+A4GNK6ShLmbKlrZt/0F8PxJtezUBlXw== X-Received: by 10.25.82.202 with SMTP id g193mr10449228lfb.141.1469574247786; Tue, 26 Jul 2016 16:04:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: "Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 23:04:06 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why we just lost some users? -> Re: [geda-user] Stay or go? To: gEDA users mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:08 PM, Russell Nelson (russnelson AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via > geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >> >> Ignoring the issues with developers and their problems with change >> would you please explain what it is you were hoping for in usability, >> workflow and gui that you were not seeing? > > > I share Marvin's concerns. Very simple usability concerns, which *ought* to > be easily fixed: > > In gschem, I hit ^Z to undo. In PCB, I hit U to undo. > In gschem, I hit s to get into select mode. In PCB, s changes the size of > things. Thanks but again I was hoping to focus on just Marvin's concerns with this thread. PS: gschem's keymap is user defined. I don't know about pcb. You could make them match if you really wanted. (i always wanted buttons on the keymap in pcb for (pcb legacy keymap) (gschem compatibility keymap) (user defined) -- Home http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ Work http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/ -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: GnuPG v2 mQENBFYy4RYBCAC183JomLtbdAlcKiaPDoVHq52LDmVmH75aiEc69m7YxDt54/ai VtYCAobbGVIyn3Hlz3uhF6LnPl/6Lm1VdnCfpwu3KQhCO6ds10ow2C30X4ohCqOd hCVg5C+ILmQkEffFrFODy3ji+PYTF4pADvHCWsTMv0hf0llwFOJsBCK6cl02IffE JPqy4PjM1nZ9HpzT84JBaG/4OGvTZ8SQ2yFUl265jagvygPTf88H1xpZHH1r8dB1 stjUHLmPH8AOyDgKxFchgGeDc3p/vJtgDDIXAFfDXG0NSRovLmtaQdGxe47Zf/go bXiEM7YL2WqQe5zfEA919JxkEwlDKYniOSVzABEBAAG0N0V2YW4gRm9zcyAoVGhp cyBpcyBteSBwdWJsaWMga2V5LikgPGV2YW5mb3NzQGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JATkEEwEC ACMFAlYy4RYCGwMHCwkIBwMCAQYVCAIJCgsEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRCIpQTcE8nN bbBaCACAm8pU5lG1ev2Fsw68Axtcl57SJrYieqX96c3YuYH9JpqMqJRnd9nDKw9X tQuvuH7tUk0VbOaDqReOYJVI/4c5wb9AaOFp6K2DUcupq6XhgXpvz3HzoPwjAdIj XuQzdRUx5+innTJrSkGuBYW/CZ2zqEx4xfLlq4rO0hoTUMR8QVp2cCrkw6BT0m86 APIw/ZnjoxM8IEzr7MxfRIg3qpzrZk28rmhx+k78Jyk61UhwcCPGIm/pjUopTwYJ 3YBdRB2cYD2aN7A1JVf5cRmSQYooHBGpH0kYvomGk97PKqypVuJ7OpG9xM58wUcC qUVt9hKlePLzP8csYjt8onqI7qIIuQENBFYy4RYBCADlH8spG3WkCx62vB5mr5Z0 SCDd/RcyA4A5y5EOj5KurQkrSWpgi9Ho1yKruMJ6blQR2qkc66KqH9pnXDm/ZI1M K/wdW3ngETxBmXoozzFMT89aEWIVR5/PFodWK1elekE9iJxACuR98Zg2QttTD3x8 A9w8VEyMLOXcDTrPFpHegMKswFBg5iuMulAdXAoGejWTI3n+qKFpabHm2Lfs6wjk 5rjucpTdeFK6UeWF1xAvNxXibuu5BlGwv53930qIXRwO/Gn2Rh5DXWxKU2fEIme/ xgQQmIsDeUoWbfybdjw/x7Q0LW4mINiLDQcGHHRQKFIxbAJCT3USPLGh5xwE9/Er ABEBAAGJAR8EGAECAAkFAlYy4RYCGwwACgkQiKUE3BPJzW0uYAf9Hf30n8tM3mR2 Zo6ESE0ivgdgjaJtAWrBUx7JzAzPjBnBOlNnu5Y9lVEqetvUPH6e3PvaHYUuaUU8 0HwxuKBW9nUprgV6uIu1DZmlcp+SxpbuCy7RDpNocRLNWWFMaYYzznmTgfnTgD4D gCq8Mf1mcfrluTkOAo+QNqbMfl1GISClopRqxVuAo59ewgMnFujwgd8w12BwWl24 CzqOs5HqcUslePj+LzcjSNgVCklYwKl+0dsb/fctMOCtHodwqm2CBJ+zydvNmYkD fxda/J91Z1xrah5ec++FL0L4vs+jCiIWJeupJFKlr1hCMZiiGH7W554loK5l4jv3 EY347EidAw== =Ta4p -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----