X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=k2Ykk9+WoPYzXixLPEwMse7kGoBjk373VbuVpBGDh8k=; b=KJjfx4FnCo0lAv/UuU05wNLs10N/ABnPYswdGx8rboBclNqqeuPBiL8LkRvKULZgdW CpbWi2GswO/lWnIGFGKlLoBnHcpPO/TaB3xLYJSEKsuGgKbMq+6fobIS/6X1VbkxRhyQ Tweip9fL1zNw9UuWbWokdvz6jJVrwfUQk72a/3PXgnupyU9acy4+31WVbRt9zZQjS2+L 2XFHzKu7xQwcyJL/PnjFMJUVOt57l9nZyRwpGaXLlwyyRzasPilw/LPqKZVOfQimXD6s nPmIdR63GP1IK2KimztikPJBuGQgcgjObwLAkGDAVVY57/N2NCMEj6LzKQ709syGCtAd nzOQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=k2Ykk9+WoPYzXixLPEwMse7kGoBjk373VbuVpBGDh8k=; b=ZRWq+MH/YbibVODvZqzzJBf+5pJba/a7AHmRP8QQdZoCDM5bxkjZo2kO9BnjL9zGJE 9NslrQ7HLowTwaPeh2Ty1DjGXs3gn6137ylyM3uE1XyBSrhYbz3CN3B99bRiyDhpF/zL APOd/Hy/DauS5DB3/sZh965qD6HOCTpwQQsvBDGMNezAsE84l2DkCbHvfCGMOcbVLez5 Fy6EOKX6yNgsXWZO2xBNMeT+w2NEJq1+nMQ1sLKO8j59IIroJ9rUw6f1fhAzUMjCDFFT Wo8De1o7WgYIix5CcFlSOYFPW1SYqsW1KoSvB8bX+HTZhW+udGa5BlcPOJv+PaoiRUN7 KufQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkooutNQdXeYmQIbCvwCjyJ5b8fSyKkKA+oD6VXAnluoh7F51c0b61uxFEZFo64aQXaeLy+Bnau5P3A37OgXA== X-Received: by 10.25.82.9 with SMTP id g9mr9984637lfb.228.1469557746394; Tue, 26 Jul 2016 11:29:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <22aa7b2e-c861-fbc5-9b5e-1bd2a359be64@ecosensory.com> References: <98D1C4E4-581D-4A03-94E4-E0330960EADF AT wellesley DOT edu> <20160726121052 DOT b37ee47eb2d7a773f6196a12 AT gmail DOT com> <22aa7b2e-c861-fbc5-9b5e-1bd2a359be64 AT ecosensory DOT com> From: "Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 14:29:05 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] Stay or go? --> gui To: gEDA users mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 11:08 AM, John Griessen (john AT ecosensory DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > On 07/26/2016 05:10 AM, Nicklas Karlsson (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via > geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >> >> Modern GUI is like changing plastic shell on telephone, still the same >> buttons and screen. > > > Sure. Orthogonal functions. Toolkit. Unixy. > We have those, and want more of separation of core functions from special > apps, features. > Translation of symbols, footprints, schematics, netlists is a big thing that > will attract more new people. > There are plenty of oddballs created in the world all the time. So we'll > have company! > No worry about geda-gaf becoming mainstream...it can exist in a niche just > fine without that. I hope the community grows even if it gets fragmented because of all the incompatible people. > Like Evan said, "I encourage everyone else to find > a subset of the crowd and work on some thing." Thanks I was beginning to think no one read that email. Incidentally we really could use more people testing pcb-rnd and if the bugs I have found are any indication the mainline of pcb could use some retesting too. > Something good can shake out eventually. No need for doom and gloom. I was hoping pcb would adopt pcb-rnd as it's new head and Igor2's work would see wider use. I guess now it is more like the open document foundation and libreoffice / openoffice. People will fork or rewrite pcb/geda and new groups will form. I think the important thing is that we manage to work together on file formats and things that are less contentious. -- Home http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ Work http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/ -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: GnuPG v2 mQENBFYy4RYBCAC183JomLtbdAlcKiaPDoVHq52LDmVmH75aiEc69m7YxDt54/ai VtYCAobbGVIyn3Hlz3uhF6LnPl/6Lm1VdnCfpwu3KQhCO6ds10ow2C30X4ohCqOd hCVg5C+ILmQkEffFrFODy3ji+PYTF4pADvHCWsTMv0hf0llwFOJsBCK6cl02IffE JPqy4PjM1nZ9HpzT84JBaG/4OGvTZ8SQ2yFUl265jagvygPTf88H1xpZHH1r8dB1 stjUHLmPH8AOyDgKxFchgGeDc3p/vJtgDDIXAFfDXG0NSRovLmtaQdGxe47Zf/go bXiEM7YL2WqQe5zfEA919JxkEwlDKYniOSVzABEBAAG0N0V2YW4gRm9zcyAoVGhp cyBpcyBteSBwdWJsaWMga2V5LikgPGV2YW5mb3NzQGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JATkEEwEC ACMFAlYy4RYCGwMHCwkIBwMCAQYVCAIJCgsEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRCIpQTcE8nN bbBaCACAm8pU5lG1ev2Fsw68Axtcl57SJrYieqX96c3YuYH9JpqMqJRnd9nDKw9X tQuvuH7tUk0VbOaDqReOYJVI/4c5wb9AaOFp6K2DUcupq6XhgXpvz3HzoPwjAdIj XuQzdRUx5+innTJrSkGuBYW/CZ2zqEx4xfLlq4rO0hoTUMR8QVp2cCrkw6BT0m86 APIw/ZnjoxM8IEzr7MxfRIg3qpzrZk28rmhx+k78Jyk61UhwcCPGIm/pjUopTwYJ 3YBdRB2cYD2aN7A1JVf5cRmSQYooHBGpH0kYvomGk97PKqypVuJ7OpG9xM58wUcC qUVt9hKlePLzP8csYjt8onqI7qIIuQENBFYy4RYBCADlH8spG3WkCx62vB5mr5Z0 SCDd/RcyA4A5y5EOj5KurQkrSWpgi9Ho1yKruMJ6blQR2qkc66KqH9pnXDm/ZI1M K/wdW3ngETxBmXoozzFMT89aEWIVR5/PFodWK1elekE9iJxACuR98Zg2QttTD3x8 A9w8VEyMLOXcDTrPFpHegMKswFBg5iuMulAdXAoGejWTI3n+qKFpabHm2Lfs6wjk 5rjucpTdeFK6UeWF1xAvNxXibuu5BlGwv53930qIXRwO/Gn2Rh5DXWxKU2fEIme/ xgQQmIsDeUoWbfybdjw/x7Q0LW4mINiLDQcGHHRQKFIxbAJCT3USPLGh5xwE9/Er ABEBAAGJAR8EGAECAAkFAlYy4RYCGwwACgkQiKUE3BPJzW0uYAf9Hf30n8tM3mR2 Zo6ESE0ivgdgjaJtAWrBUx7JzAzPjBnBOlNnu5Y9lVEqetvUPH6e3PvaHYUuaUU8 0HwxuKBW9nUprgV6uIu1DZmlcp+SxpbuCy7RDpNocRLNWWFMaYYzznmTgfnTgD4D gCq8Mf1mcfrluTkOAo+QNqbMfl1GISClopRqxVuAo59ewgMnFujwgd8w12BwWl24 CzqOs5HqcUslePj+LzcjSNgVCklYwKl+0dsb/fctMOCtHodwqm2CBJ+zydvNmYkD fxda/J91Z1xrah5ec++FL0L4vs+jCiIWJeupJFKlr1hCMZiiGH7W554loK5l4jv3 EY347EidAw== =Ta4p -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----