X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=PqIqqWrwISO70mUc3Fa0lBJi8fglXPJxy+1/Ehyxzls=; b=COy3WIRBXM+boyY5xD8rX9F/x46yjsHpjCSolSnj/C6A45ACPe5EIMMYgAk5yO6UPU fSfTO8zZxX/X8Y7ONrE2ZDn7+ZNV3aCS82zuLWsPaNuZvjODhiKMs74GpNLA9R9b9abW dkgUVqx5ouENEm3ygPJLtbPdk4t3S2amjX9iTRND2u/GviIy0EdnkllmajhvGxlBvaPQ zGhwDc3yglbMl6TBBD5U6jopcsLpNQSrL9u1yLFXE7KOpwGJ9qtl1EVmhJBUNd2/iFPf +wgMeTyYrZ+XHaiUajFsSgEkdqMCZ4kuuPuI6F3v4y9MmBn6XVghNqm1m4z91flzzPBW t7tA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to :references:mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=PqIqqWrwISO70mUc3Fa0lBJi8fglXPJxy+1/Ehyxzls=; b=YqE6pzTjW3tDzRzJxSn6KeSLgwTzhBp4bQ4PXBbfQEY33SwgrZTZcXzBsFIG1YH9pU MdHVYAOxD0/f8eSztSVGt4reTtgy9ynG7THy5fzrtmQ3jLW0GEnRcnpcenYywEVnwadp +ESRjDkRi061P3uz9FCVLnKcRAA4Dk5E8c8SKT5/Lb4UgwLl9chKj6BgLXIWiu7wA1Rq lFyCFeakLhy4h74dZQzJB7j2/ReWGbwS4ayAcdEonN/Zm5lJVIFvxoVPsJUkv05gUv7z SIauuotxb5myXeqbakm81SqMr5rRRdTcf8CS9uSfgi0a4oSgb9wxgmFkSspM0ziUKs42 JMwQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkooutIxjTxVIif0X6Hvgi8VnCUdERHo+mQudw9y8msaHbFRZQMoqUJ3qe6VzuIbDvt8w== X-Received: by 10.25.169.147 with SMTP id s141mr5116451lfe.203.1469335205895; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 21:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 07:40:03 +0300 From: "Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] Stay or go? Message-ID: <20160724044003.GL17595@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com References: <98D1C4E4-581D-4A03-94E4-E0330960EADF AT wellesley DOT edu> <57938EAB DOT 3020106 AT xs4all DOT nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <57938EAB.3020106@xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 05:35:07PM +0200, Bert Timmerman (bert DOT timmerman AT xs4all DOT nl) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: ... > John Doty is right in that gschem will not lock you into pcb. > > gschem and gnetlist do give *you* the choice where to go for *your* next > step in the workflow *you* want to follow. > > pcb is just one possible further step, and osmond, verilog, vhdl (ghdl), > gnucap or ngspice are other possible steps (see "man gnetlist"). While I agree with you here, there is another side of the coin. There are netlister's backends nobody uses and nobody reports their state. A few months ago one user has reported vams is broken. Looking at it I've discovered it is broken about a decade ago. No special tests were made at the time of its creation so just nobody knows... I am saying about this because my intention, which I am going to implement, is stripping our repository by removing various obsolete/unused/non-working thigs. Of course, I'll ask our users here about any of them, if/when I do this. -- Vladimir