X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=orlh8ZYKfDKf6GxLyuNYBDMv2zmGdWBBnVVScSxTsIw=; b=jO3Hwof1TiZZP70PpHtyJSPNiq+hLMK7sQ83fNDf+hFumbGnTRNEbTWldHFgpHCFNi kpH4dZ1uars1QyEAthzksR8bPw9iw3zvZSi2IVfq4WsnsLzQ2FuVQVw8IHZMN/VzPQA8 mnzInP+4XOh63726bdS3PVu7TztIiAT2U76kBuyFVg01Z0fD0yJJSIF3m/abxV6tHHbp VEaLhnbDFG/PzbA6Bkc5syxZyYc0Gujv+QeaTai7DoHine3kdrSDM+YLaAAOeEc2pxhT Kihl7Fnj1o8kRuWHD4cLvbPOmjW6B+wnBIJjKtSDW5bnwWC3ROM4lZ/iEPJL5+egk/tN D0/g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=orlh8ZYKfDKf6GxLyuNYBDMv2zmGdWBBnVVScSxTsIw=; b=UXoP1+ShONdt4ikAaD0Ve6vSqbJxwzxqebNx+Gx4obhmnSYgCDFYw9C7KjfmLXpfLs yjsFmk19G33ZE9NFEWO2anbeHdj3UFGVSrJhJcVVYhhMahlA+kmN39GO5LoEGbz4gGSp YAv/moXVmYPwm9aVR7ktkm5Ih6S9KHBPwBSYjdD5cs5tEBtXN87S6x+6Vwx5L/6i6Rwp IEWaxatS+FnhUOGKvBMfc+xv6e550FKaTyHHL0cSCnSkZ2cXu75W7XC9vvoPEEn+XpSF kO8bA5iGcMtrLETizcPPMc3R9w+etbdLERMmlz4EiVJSTZdpBqNNvXciAONPT7kjrSgu JcqQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkooutdz2dR4NWMwmmqpc0bhd3ZYEgvoeg+XxuUdPtew+c0sk1L+s0h6aCbfIzF4Bc1jVxlu4c52Y7LziygVQ== X-Received: by 10.25.82.9 with SMTP id g9mr5260209lfb.228.1469319766738; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 17:22:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160724020053.a598f73dcc0773aa43f2bf6a@gmail.com> References: <98D1C4E4-581D-4A03-94E4-E0330960EADF AT wellesley DOT edu> <20160723224811 DOT 2e9f59de5a5898c59003ff85 AT gmail DOT com> <20160724020053 DOT a598f73dcc0773aa43f2bf6a AT gmail DOT com> From: "Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 00:22:45 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] Stay or go? To: gEDA users mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id u6O0Mq2i008509 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 12:00 AM, Nicklas Karlsson (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >> > With attribute handling I mean pin mapping, BOM generation and similar which is handled thru attached attributes. I think gschem use non of the attributes itself, just assign and display which work great. >> >> Yes but to be fair slotting has it's issues. > > Attribute for pin may be changed from layout in pcb or assigned later in workflow. This is a feedback issue and attribute is not interpreted by gschem. > > If gschem assign pinnumber which I think slotting mechansim do, it must interpret the attributes and define rules for them. There is a problem because same symbol may be used at different positions for different packages and package may not be known or changed afterwards. I think point to mapping with attribute or embedded would or have solved it. Not all circuits end up on a circuit board and for these package pin numbers may not make any sense and better removed. > > This pin mapping selection is also a problem for some circuits available in different packages. To be fair most of the time when you change the parts symbol for something like an fpga there is no good way to make the new extra pins fit in the space that was there. Have you ever used a suite that supported changing packages which actually handled it correctly more than 90% of the time? I have used a few and the 10% when it failed drove me nuts. -- Home http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ Work http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/ -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: GnuPG v2 mQENBFYy4RYBCAC183JomLtbdAlcKiaPDoVHq52LDmVmH75aiEc69m7YxDt54/ai VtYCAobbGVIyn3Hlz3uhF6LnPl/6Lm1VdnCfpwu3KQhCO6ds10ow2C30X4ohCqOd hCVg5C+ILmQkEffFrFODy3ji+PYTF4pADvHCWsTMv0hf0llwFOJsBCK6cl02IffE JPqy4PjM1nZ9HpzT84JBaG/4OGvTZ8SQ2yFUl265jagvygPTf88H1xpZHH1r8dB1 stjUHLmPH8AOyDgKxFchgGeDc3p/vJtgDDIXAFfDXG0NSRovLmtaQdGxe47Zf/go bXiEM7YL2WqQe5zfEA919JxkEwlDKYniOSVzABEBAAG0N0V2YW4gRm9zcyAoVGhp cyBpcyBteSBwdWJsaWMga2V5LikgPGV2YW5mb3NzQGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JATkEEwEC ACMFAlYy4RYCGwMHCwkIBwMCAQYVCAIJCgsEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRCIpQTcE8nN bbBaCACAm8pU5lG1ev2Fsw68Axtcl57SJrYieqX96c3YuYH9JpqMqJRnd9nDKw9X tQuvuH7tUk0VbOaDqReOYJVI/4c5wb9AaOFp6K2DUcupq6XhgXpvz3HzoPwjAdIj XuQzdRUx5+innTJrSkGuBYW/CZ2zqEx4xfLlq4rO0hoTUMR8QVp2cCrkw6BT0m86 APIw/ZnjoxM8IEzr7MxfRIg3qpzrZk28rmhx+k78Jyk61UhwcCPGIm/pjUopTwYJ 3YBdRB2cYD2aN7A1JVf5cRmSQYooHBGpH0kYvomGk97PKqypVuJ7OpG9xM58wUcC qUVt9hKlePLzP8csYjt8onqI7qIIuQENBFYy4RYBCADlH8spG3WkCx62vB5mr5Z0 SCDd/RcyA4A5y5EOj5KurQkrSWpgi9Ho1yKruMJ6blQR2qkc66KqH9pnXDm/ZI1M K/wdW3ngETxBmXoozzFMT89aEWIVR5/PFodWK1elekE9iJxACuR98Zg2QttTD3x8 A9w8VEyMLOXcDTrPFpHegMKswFBg5iuMulAdXAoGejWTI3n+qKFpabHm2Lfs6wjk 5rjucpTdeFK6UeWF1xAvNxXibuu5BlGwv53930qIXRwO/Gn2Rh5DXWxKU2fEIme/ xgQQmIsDeUoWbfybdjw/x7Q0LW4mINiLDQcGHHRQKFIxbAJCT3USPLGh5xwE9/Er ABEBAAGJAR8EGAECAAkFAlYy4RYCGwwACgkQiKUE3BPJzW0uYAf9Hf30n8tM3mR2 Zo6ESE0ivgdgjaJtAWrBUx7JzAzPjBnBOlNnu5Y9lVEqetvUPH6e3PvaHYUuaUU8 0HwxuKBW9nUprgV6uIu1DZmlcp+SxpbuCy7RDpNocRLNWWFMaYYzznmTgfnTgD4D gCq8Mf1mcfrluTkOAo+QNqbMfl1GISClopRqxVuAo59ewgMnFujwgd8w12BwWl24 CzqOs5HqcUslePj+LzcjSNgVCklYwKl+0dsb/fctMOCtHodwqm2CBJ+zydvNmYkD fxda/J91Z1xrah5ec++FL0L4vs+jCiIWJeupJFKlr1hCMZiiGH7W554loK5l4jv3 EY347EidAw== =Ta4p -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----