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On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 10:59:10AM +0200, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sat, 23 Jul 2016, Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
> 
> >On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 12:46:58AM +0000, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
> >...
> >
> >>>Now, this is what we have due to everybody want 'do it my
> >>>way / in my preferred language', I believe.
> >>
> >>The advantage of such a statement is that any one who responds will
> >>inevitably risk being the creator of a flamewar by restarting those
> >>two fights. All they can do is talk in very general terms.
> >
> >You know how many languages have been mentioned here (lua, awk,
> >python, ruby, c, ada, java, scheme, etc etc) and I see all the
> >people who mention their preferred languages say something like "I
> 
> Same old story... You pretend that it is not possible to get a software
> scriptable in multiple languages (or in fact in anything else than your
> precious scheme). I guess this is the good strategy if you want to keep
> scheme alive, because as soon as users can choose anything else, scheme
> loses its relevance almost immediately.

Apparently, I cannot write such quickly as you do. See my previous
answer to you. The problem is not in scheme but in the attitude of
the sparce developers we have now, I think.

> 
> (Although I use "scheme" a lot in this mail, my focus is on the big picture.
> Scheme is only one important, but small symptom. While reading, please try
> to keep in mind that scheme is just an example and in most contexts it could
> be replaced by a few other flamewar-material buzzwords like "integration vs.
> toolkit" (random example).)

Look at gimp, lillypond, sly ... Emacs, at length.

Wait a bit, I have to run to a shop for vodka, and later I'll
read and answer what you've written. 


-- 
  Vladimir