X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=41UH7LVtIAl1yoOru2+F8gr16nTKWGjWh3B4d4iYHks=; b=Adn02cVqBQHLsemrUAfwcLCPBo2ncxTqsB7lsC0fL9Cw5sPl9YtnXaTnWGo62ZRHpJ 4mSovxhU8fgZOIeG1oy1seMwlACYK1H7W9c95OerH4FpN2WGGoEdBjko9SNNNvg3DjiG jGF/wtDKFPK0Ti3b8d2FhbGum6qYUbQI6smdAYpLnpsElJx4MKlhqIKRMi+/2rPH9oM2 N36F1Xic4ZR/Zv5Lg/1IV6mBcg53DwzPaApK7kJodqKEJc4uzi+1UPpGJ5mgj+074Mw5 ZnNGJYYlxY+4dZ467JdBpea1/eFFveJdbkczeoEyYkE4CXkmNtnXRKEX7KjpMnZ2YNXk igBg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=41UH7LVtIAl1yoOru2+F8gr16nTKWGjWh3B4d4iYHks=; b=ObuX7fvPZD2ISMEPfShZZLwov/XgJuTIkWN4GK9tJS1gCJSMKqNiGzaYxchaMzJGOi 99r92L73KrUV75sa+1jQMvba/96dUaJmbc11E2kNNMecSlYc3sGL9bHZ/2MvX9fENojg 3W1ve3JtiCtffE0Wzg1D7RCqCGUJfaJjOBqCuIxvejYXDQ43dPATIt/qaoRpujqxT2VJ JS1SBVdkO8KXOnN2tikCUm0V/kK1rzivgzUv6MSeLN/kUQf729PVHngytGqYdn8Ok8VK bQf4A0Ik4XzuHILMgrf4Iak8LFr8Edo8zasL+HKJo1qIhqioEjsnX3EsKOfz31/Z9Nwe /Zcw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJKQ+LeLVSZm4CftDcAeOYaIRHxQMv1Js/iDclRz7cyBXwYuGH21QtIh/bcQdEPKWg== X-Received: by 10.25.7.4 with SMTP id 4mr1944605lfh.147.1459801049107; Mon, 04 Apr 2016 13:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 22:17:24 +0200 From: "Nicklas Karlsson (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] pcb: keyboard poll Message-Id: <20160404221724.0e6970d369f2228b6e5259b1@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0beta1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 07:45:17 +0200 (CEST) gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm in the middle of replacing menu.res with lihata in pcb-rnd. While at > it, I'm removing some code duplication between the gtk and lesstif hids > and moving some common input handling (mouse and keyboard binding lookup). > > I noticed the lesstif HID supports multi-key sequences (like gschem). I > guess I could easily end up having the same support for the gtk HID after > the above mentioned refactoring. However, I am not sure how PCB users use > their menu.res in practice and how much hassle changing the defaults > would be for an user. > > If you are using PCB, please answer each question (on the list or in > private) by marking your choices with a + before the letter of the > choice. You can also include comments, but please try to keep them short > (or even consider running a new thread for them). > > If you want to answer to others' comments, please change the topic of the > mail and separate that answer from filling in the poll. > > > 1. Do you use the lesstif HID? (select one) > a. yes, exclusively > b. yes, often > c. sometimes, rarely > d. never Not sure just run pcb and use the default. > 2. If there were different menu resources files distributed with PCB, > would you try them? (select one) > a. yes, I'd give each variant a try before deciding which one to use > b. no, I'm fine with the default > c. I don't know what a menu resource file is a. Yes left hand without on keyboard and right hand on mouse would be really great, I think anyway. > 3. Do you customize your menu resource file? (select one) > a. yes, always (e.g. I have an own variant I use with all installation of > PCB) > b. yes, sometimes, rarely (e.g. I once had to do something repeatedly and > added a key binding for that) > c. never, I know where I'd perform the changes if I ever needed > them but defalts are good enough for now > d. never, I don't know what a menu resource file is c. Have been thinking about it. > 4. If you do not costumize your menu resource file, it's because (select > zero or more): > a. I don't need to > b. the file is too long > c. too many keys are taken, it's hard to find a free one > d. I don't like the format of the file > e. I don't like the idea of editing text config files, I want a GUI for > this > f. I don't want to diverge from the default settings (e.g. because of > potetial hassle at a later upgrade) Not enough time, yet. > 5. Do you miss multi-key sequences from the GTK hid? (select one) > a. yes, I'd prefer to use them over modifiers (ctrl, alt, shift) > b. yes, I'd use them together with the modifiers > c. maybe I'd use some > d. no, I prefer modifiers > e. I hate the idea so much that I'd even disable it compile time if that > was possible > f. N/A, don't know 1. For some very common actions it is really convenient to use left hand without moving mouse pointer. > 6. If the GTK hid supported multi-key sequences, would that change any of > your previous answers? (fill in zero or more with a letter) > a. my new choice for 2. would be: > b. my new choice for 3. would be: a. > 7. slightly off-topic: vendor (drill) mapping also uses a resource file. > Do you use this feature? (select one) > a. yes, often, many of my boards rely on vendor mapping and I maintain > my own resource files per vendor > b. yes, sometimes, rarely (e.g. I needed it once...) > c. no, I know how to use it but never needed it > d. no, I know the feature exists and I know where to look it up but I > don't really know what exactly it can do or why I should bother > e. no, I never heard about this feature No but it feels like a good feature. Nicklas Karlsson