X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=NYEnocdNyDdfbETKimhMmNnVoVC7lXpZ9WJ/vTvJONs=; b=v5zOTTwFEXRvOWQkEaXpzjtPynyrYbgbq+W8Cn58iFH7uH2+74kDglDzPGw09YrwM6 AMAtFMXZBa4lrsCjyK1LTr+mxl3wpBlpqX5bPcUSZyOcfAvMiBeptseXmLhRdB+jV+xK FPIakhkIhfhf7xeVyfiDLuP8kRX/dYrHHf7nKf5uZjqPy3kaurFVVrMSfRx8+XJxNZVz edb2rASxA0MrT6tI7pInfIjJzlhf2G5U7NHtGtoct26dkqi0ZN0QAeghVYuacX4KG9Mo pMeU7Bg6bdHmY53GSfXIsosaaLS1nM6eveDX4GmOAz9meLZSdytdSujUfTiqR3YmunoN YrNg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NYEnocdNyDdfbETKimhMmNnVoVC7lXpZ9WJ/vTvJONs=; b=I6Ux11vV9YkRRlsRMPmj8GjzY4uQDmAfEh/TGwUBn+zPWbO5qDmh0s8S8xgGkcAzWo tBksYNRbkbeUHUTJyWBD1Wisnl987jxoVVBbaoAyIgo/Wchy/AdzLW0qpTXKgbZFhFxV HmINUHEM0ykH6pWFNbbq0FC+2qr07iaINgX5/JfcV3krnd8ee8hTxLrKFdR3MnXMVCK2 pg29PFC5WeW60uMLrvkmLv326QQ7kA9N9cya34m4JiXbW4RH3+L5VT7iX7GiQg1yi+n8 rMBHonuIPK5moTOYcKzjojahy4CgL6XD/IGhfimOXB2gHIGbUKZZH/myrQFydEWtHlGK dZ7g== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOQT39+RX3xxHzO5PJ2BvQxaATBtrZFBo8D2z5oQ9DYST2ufPvuZUGbcg0QECX/CSvhOSYAlO//HJRLCbA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.115.196 with SMTP id jq4mr5035693wjb.101.1456386382612; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 23:46:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201602250358.u1P3wv4i004224@envy.delorie.com> References: <201602250321 DOT u1P3Lbr3003187 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201602250338 DOT u1P3cpuB003688 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201602250358 DOT u1P3wv4i004224 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 22:46:22 -0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] exactly how is moving between sides/layers supposed to work, and more generally... From: "Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 6:58 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > There are a *lot* of things that act unintuitively different on > selections than on "this object", I think you'd have to redesign the > whole user experience to get it "right". Agreed, and a number of behaviors that seem odd actually make a lot of sense. I like the pointer warp in DRC for example even if it's normally considered a no-no it's the right behavior for the situation. So maybe it's not worth trying to make things only marginally more consistent with for example the changes in the original email. There are a number of things that could work that way though, and over time we might get a lot of them. Are you opposed in general to all such efforts? I'm not religious either way on this issue, it's just that early experiences with a lot of the menu options really turned me off them and I'm interested in ways to improve that for new users now. Britton