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On 17 February 2016 at 09:38, Matt Rhys-Roberts
(matt DOT rhys-roberts AT envinsci DOT co DOT uk
<mailto:matt DOT rhys-roberts AT envinsci DOT co DOT uk>) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com
<mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com>] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com
<mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com>> wrote:
I'm trying to pre-set the default DRC settings on my old version of pcb
(20110918 Compiled on Jul  2 2013 at 11:26:16).

Not everyone is running a random git checkout from a random geda/pcb
git, Peter ... ;P

MJE

On 17/02/16 13:12, Peter Clifton (petercjclifton AT googlemail DOT com) [via
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
> What version of PCB are you using (and from where?)
>
> Is it possible that you've got something quite old?
>
> I'm not sure where the fields are documented (aside from the code).
>
> Peter
>
> On 17 February 2016 at 13:03, Matt Rhys-Roberts
> (matt DOT rhys-roberts AT envinsci DOT co DOT uk
> <mailto:matt DOT rhys-roberts AT envinsci DOT co DOT uk>) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com
> <mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com>] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com
> <mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Peter,
>
>     I've looked in my ~/.pcb/preferences, and there are no DRC values
>     there at all. I wonder what would happen if I added some...
>
>     So I could do with knowing what all the DRC parameters are called;
>     are they defined anywhere?
>
>     Regards
>     Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>     On 17/02/16 12:30, Peter Clifton (petercjclifton AT googlemail DOT com
>     <mailto:petercjclifton AT googlemail DOT com>) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com
>     <mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com>] wrote:
>>     ~/.pcb/preferences contains DRC vaules..
>>
>>     Looking on my system, it appears there may be some breakage though...
>>
>>     min-width = 1 px
>>     min-silk = 1 px
>>     min-drill = 15.00 mil
>>     min-ring = 10.00 mil
>>
>>     Hmm - what has pixels got to do with anything... BUG? (it gets
>>     read in as 0.1mil .actually, but emitting px is wrong)
>>
>>     Anyway - try editing that file.. see if it updates things.
>>
>>     Be aware that some preferences are saved between PCB runs (but a
>>     quick check suggests these DRC clearances are not updated in the
>>     file, so should persist once you edit the file).
>>
>>     If you create a new design with the old gsch2pcb flow, the
>>     defaults it starts with come from a hard-coded template PCB file
>>     in the netlister back-end, but as you specifically said "new
>>     instance of pcb", I assume you're actually just starting a fresh
>>     copy of pcb with no design loaded. (And perhaps using the import
>>     schematics functionality to create your new design?)
>>
>>     Peter
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 17 February 2016 at 09:38, Matt Rhys-Roberts
>>     (matt DOT rhys-roberts AT envinsci DOT co DOT uk
>>     <mailto:matt DOT rhys-roberts AT envinsci DOT co DOT uk>) [via
>>     geda-user AT delorie DOT com <mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com>]
>>     <geda-user AT delorie DOT com <mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com>> wrote:
>>
>>         I'm trying to pre-set the default DRC settings on my old
>>         version of pcb (20110918 Compiled on Jul  2 2013 at 11:26:16).
>>
>>         There is nothing I can do to make pcb remember any kind of
>>         DRC settings from project to project. What you tell me should
>>         work, doesn't.
>>
>>         Please can anyone tell me what settings/config file to create
>>         or edit, so that every time I open a new instance of pcb, the
>>         DRC settings are just there? Or doesn't it work that way?
>>
>>         Kind regards,
>>         Matt.
>>
>
>


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    On 17 February 2016 at 09:38, Matt Rhys-Roberts (<a
      moz-do-not-send="true"
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    [via <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com"
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        moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com"
        target="_blank">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
    I'm trying to pre-set the default DRC settings on my old version of
    pcb (20110918 Compiled on Jul  2 2013 at 11:26:16).<br>
    <br>
    Not everyone is running a random git checkout from a random geda/pcb
    git, Peter ... ;P<br>
    <br>
    MJE<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17/02/16 13:12, Peter Clifton
      (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:petercjclifton AT googlemail DOT com">petercjclifton AT googlemail DOT com</a>) [via <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>] wrote:<br>
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          <div>
            <div>What version of PCB are you using (and from where?)<br>
              <br>
            </div>
            Is it possible that you've got something quite old?<br>
            <br>
          </div>
          I'm not sure where the fields are documented (aside from the
          code).<br>
          <br>
        </div>
        Peter<br>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On 17 February 2016 at 13:03, Matt
          Rhys-Roberts (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:matt DOT rhys-roberts AT envinsci DOT co DOT uk">matt DOT rhys-roberts AT envinsci DOT co DOT uk</a>)
          [via <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>]
          <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" target="_blank">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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              <div>Hi Peter,<br>
                <br>
                I've looked in my ~/.pcb/preferences, and there are no
                DRC values there at all. I wonder what would happen if I
                added some... <br>
                <br>
                So I could do with knowing what all the DRC parameters
                are called; are they defined anywhere?<br>
                <br>
                Regards<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
                    Matt</font></span>
                <div>
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                    <br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    On 17/02/16 12:30, Peter Clifton (<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:petercjclifton AT googlemail DOT com"
                      target="_blank">petercjclifton AT googlemail DOT com</a>)
                    [via <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com"
                      target="_blank">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>] wrote:<br>
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                </div>
              </div>
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                                <div>~/.pcb/preferences contains DRC
                                  vaules..<br>
                                  <br>
                                </div>
                                Looking on my system, it appears there
                                may be some breakage though...<br>
                                <br>
                                min-width = 1 px<br>
                                min-silk = 1 px<br>
                                min-drill = 15.00 mil<br>
                                min-ring = 10.00 mil<br>
                                <br>
                              </div>
                              Hmm - what has pixels got to do with
                              anything... BUG? (it gets read in as
                              0.1mil .actually, but emitting px is
                              wrong)<br>
                              <br>
                            </div>
                            Anyway - try editing that file.. see if it
                            updates things.<br>
                            <br>
                          </div>
                          Be aware that some preferences are saved
                          between PCB runs (but a quick check suggests
                          these DRC clearances are not updated in the
                          file, so should persist once you edit the
                          file).<br>
                          <br>
                        </div>
                        If you create a new design with the old gsch2pcb
                        flow, the defaults it starts with come from a
                        hard-coded template PCB file in the netlister
                        back-end, but as you specifically said "new
                        instance of pcb", I assume you're actually just
                        starting a fresh copy of pcb with no design
                        loaded. (And perhaps using the import schematics
                        functionality to create your new design?)<br>
                        <br>
                      </div>
                      Peter<br>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <div><br>
                                <br>
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                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">On 17 February 2016 at
                        09:38, Matt Rhys-Roberts (<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:matt DOT rhys-roberts AT envinsci DOT co DOT uk"
                          target="_blank">matt DOT rhys-roberts AT envinsci DOT co DOT uk</a>)
                        [via <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com"
                          target="_blank">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>] <span
                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com"
                            target="_blank">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt;</span>
                        wrote:<br>
                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0
                          0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                          solid;padding-left:1ex">I'm trying to pre-set
                          the default DRC settings on my old version of
                          pcb (20110918 Compiled on Jul  2 2013 at
                          11:26:16).<br>
                          <br>
                          There is nothing I can do to make pcb remember
                          any kind of DRC settings from project to
                          project. What you tell me should work,
                          doesn't.<br>
                          <br>
                          Please can anyone tell me what settings/config
                          file to create or edit, so that every time I
                          open a new instance of pcb, the DRC settings
                          are just there? Or doesn't it work that way?<br>
                          <br>
                          Kind regards,<br>
                          Matt.<br>
                        </blockquote>
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