X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2016-01-30_09:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 suspectscore=5 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1510270003 definitions=main-1601300348 X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=icloud.com; h=from : content-type : content-transfer-encoding : mime-version : subject : message-id : date : references : in-reply-to : to; s=4d515a; bh=kuWsd6PPgkhlKfRc+gkszapGY1kQbWN9OOGZbOZ2uGM=; b=Gcb9EDRqq1CvNHs388uWk6NbNjH+dslJvH1Zt26T8mA1vWkfnT6hTdZcTHyRQZRyWS1M +BrhiD9FihwPjXXaq95t7qPAmpD/6D1WoU4xN0QBxni7zxNNrC2Vu9W7MWINrBXX8d1t q9YxtvNyGkPML/xsWwlyf2sGlQ+JHm2mGQrqkGmtlDi9al2Auh29E4kEQLGKf3Om5k9I FY+FRIvrQCG61Qv7/77nIDiG7RAnKdfwJg3ILY9QxIHGHACJaCHfha74i4DVjFfpz7lH DnlkqApfI3HFmKJcT1mB/17C2Hrq4cNslpibnPJhmclveW98rKx3YkGfiA33XGQudSOO HQ== Sun-Java-System-SMTP-Warning: Lines longer than SMTP allows found and wrapped. From: "Chris Smith (space DOT dandy AT icloud DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: [geda-user] The nature of gEDA layers Message-id: <2E50874E-7A17-4295-B95E-8A626EE9727B@icloud.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 19:32:45 +0000 References: <20160126233332 DOT dec2f06f5c74354a3841989c AT gmail DOT com> <20160127091746 DOT 1c7a976c2752f913921688ac AT gmail DOT com> <20160127141334 DOT c738feb9dbeb54a7dec3dff8 AT gmail DOT com> <56A8F74B DOT 8080304 AT ecosensory DOT com> <56A961BC DOT 3040405 AT ecosensory DOT com> <56A9E416 DOT 8080500 AT ecosensory DOT com> <20160128200126 DOT 0fe1bb26d5c28e59d56dfd0e AT gmail DOT com> <201601282134 DOT u0SLYET7002642 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <82868AE2-27A4-44AE-92F2-47A2FAA12BB4 AT icloud DOT com> <201601301603 DOT u0UG3D4E023424 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> In-reply-to: <201601301603.u0UG3D4E023424@envy.delorie.com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: iPad Mail (13D15) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id u0UJWrGM018491 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Yes, I wasn't trying to say otherwise. PCB is a 2D layout program and it seems to me that the suggestions so far are using complex structures to try and represent a third dimension that PCB has no other use for. All I was trying to say, is why not provide a generic mechanism for the user to say 'at this 2D location layers X, Y and Z are connected'. PCB doesn't need to know how or why the connection exists and can get on with its job of 2D routing. Chris Sent from my iPad > On 30 Jan 2016, at 16:03, DJ Delorie wrote: > > Despite some folks dreams to the contrary, a layout program is not a > generic CAD program. It has to have *some* understanding of what the > layout *means* in order to be useful to the designer. Otherwise you > might as well use a paint program.