X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qYSHkp66HB2/53qYlwz11fRJO3JOmQusJU45fK/i/Cg=; b=cR5/vRIQVANMstemjxi3B+6H3MRsCENPf/elLHbnne1yOCmWw8NqPrgfTRb+6lNNtl 5+7XfnrK3xpJ5uzVhgEBw9eoLSk1lFQhwggjMLZ2BCrzeEQd2xsaB15slYq6TJnIxAlV M7IheYSHccWSG9AgxIWd+ihhyQ+nTYz9Xny5OcwRRNhzLCcV2vwugl7SFjzzFquPGt4y N8Zy4ECt6UHT6uM4LDPn1M+dj4SUknvmFGfo0wn4w67/Ugg3GVOVKoNoV9WJwx+cUXdq brw9LSv2x59TyQ1JyeHMr8FCj6VyQRpuDqEH7RQGfxPC5uSRDSTcDiTzp8IixNmyPcyT GTlg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qYSHkp66HB2/53qYlwz11fRJO3JOmQusJU45fK/i/Cg=; b=UQsOtrfZsTNJigJal8UDt/aXjZhlMBZRF7jF3tZoyga2BMxd5FZPwDQh9N7RqgcfT6 rri0wY0aPvCF0RxRom75zBMOyRsgXtveTa7r9OF9/g7CuTpWrV8IB6XkISRi5BJKnGR1 NP4m+tZdKy2sdHtvibagHpDii7ss4r1jKqO5BCkJKqLMZM4XDfexLsSWwlekJ5TWY1iG hgtROfFkkhfcQ5NZ8y7EyNEtqj0KdYBAAqsp8h/rV7Axgdq0FCTmFa4PVasH+4STAx2K /r6WKwpcGn3AGgqoyaIozHRlsbDATEbGzrM90q23dq/4HkpJ74QzvZYsPqWDiMEkzUv4 c5jQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOQwpsLnInNCr0lZ5pWR18Tby7g9QQ64X5FBV8Ju9+e7+CkKbGQHSsoYFIrqr8FRdQ== X-Received: by 10.28.30.138 with SMTP id e132mr29683826wme.86.1453914798680; Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:13:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 18:13:08 +0100 From: "Nicklas Karlsson (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] The nature of gEDA users Message-Id: <20160127181308.f330a408b6785a251c034060@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <56A751EC DOT 8030402 AT iae DOT nl> <20160126124701 DOT 0d061912c7e078ced9d4e6cb AT gmail DOT com> <201601261804 DOT u0QI4KEQ009550 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20160126233332 DOT dec2f06f5c74354a3841989c AT gmail DOT com> <20160127091746 DOT 1c7a976c2752f913921688ac AT gmail DOT com> <20160127141334 DOT c738feb9dbeb54a7dec3dff8 AT gmail DOT com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0beta1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk > >> No. The circle connecting the copper circles is on a different layer, > >> and is not negative, i.e., not a cutout. The gerber export of a copper > >> layer has no hole where the drill hits. > > > > The circles connecting the layers are drilled thru board and are hence > > a cut out in the board which is later plated. The gerber export of a > > copper layer has no hole where the drill hits but it does not matter > > because the drill will make a hole, a proper model of layer would > > however have a hole there the drill hits. > > Well, this is exactly not what I propose. > > I do not need a "propper model of a piece of copper" And a via is not a > drilled hole but a body of aluminum that is deposited onto an square > etched into a layer of SiO2. Well then I guess your via could be modeled as a square cutout in the SiO2 but here it is a difference if there is a hole in middle or not. I still guess possibility to draw the necessary drawing primitives on the layers are very useful, or? > > a via is a composite of objects on different layers. > > That is true. Including the layer that tells what is conductively > connected. Then it would only be necessary to look on drawing primitives on conductive layer and conductivity layer to figure electrical connections and for DRC check of clearance? Nicklas Karlsson