X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UQp5sJuvENvpE7QbwPpeB3p3JSOUjKEFzbVT6s1f/tA=; b=F/qQ3WRdmxgdK7w9WKSxskbwdkVE/UD/ofbHPcvo+g+1HdRtH5DQxvXGAFk8whrmxD ci8ZF7fBLIFAmVa723I1BpWpKgt6bpPYKUMP2NPPTNccNg/pESxAhg1KpX9LmcPG2cRO X14dAUleGLT2ggmOBjQCtvgSfSI2tgNsxAskVHpkLbPEg0qfkRK6m2Ot6Gh0AvNrroH7 IClOqBk+C7FVVAH4ypzBHwT5v0d3KkqdXO+Rk5+ij542brb+2qJExHMvmLY2PsipVo7X 8WxwNQSC5BNrlDluGMe+3VwpU7FBzdQ7ZTxtSwJncTW/bJFGuPwJ5KYCKmj9ykoz39Jf cTbA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UQp5sJuvENvpE7QbwPpeB3p3JSOUjKEFzbVT6s1f/tA=; b=OM2kXFEeqyixAScpObOBNs0mkVzDOKXKyTBiLg51V5Vzqe1ttB/F17ult0lUbVZnZj r7DJ9w0xsztM5dRcsPaDWHZ9oe56vpNJyRqZJm4mXOq2PSxYyxUknuRcFrD2deKQqFiq q2MGm/KK8AkWsiqzbpEbyxz9NgDZHx7z3EJLIJBHQfmSQFbS1sx8dyar6fqhKQ/GebC+ CR93eFpUX9YaPjATmkkeOyQrV//e+fjyZKddsHZJfZ0ggKls3lWRaYi6orTeXf8IDR1W 6yMntgdf+TWuPlc3rOuqptYPyMPxRFrdYinjg8/SqvRPJcDo/k3aGBTDY+cUfSWLvbkY cKoA== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOTJE2p3QQW1/CsHMrxw9/1UekH8q9Iua4y5lahr/d7MYoDGA1mRxj6MSF4+97WQEV3EnnDH5rakpJvitw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.23.73 with SMTP id 70mr25494648wmx.37.1453847750154; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 14:35:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <56A751EC DOT 8030402 AT iae DOT nl> <20160126124701 DOT 0d061912c7e078ced9d4e6cb AT gmail DOT com> <201601261804 DOT u0QI4KEQ009550 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 13:35:50 -0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] The nature of gEDA users From: "Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id u0QMZrcf032753 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:19 PM, John Doty wrote: > > On Jan 26, 2016, at 2:02 PM, Stephan Böttcher wrote: > >> But the first steps should not be "implement b/b vias" or "allow more >> than one pair of outer layers". It should be something like "expess >> Elements and Vias as subclasses of generic containers that can include >> anything". > > +1 So you guys actually want a more strongly typed system. That's pretty different from gschem, which uses attributes (duck types) for most things. Regarding making arbitrary containers, I'm not convinced its a good idea. Entire layouts serve much the same purpose and can easily be copied about. Admittedly I'm not convinced the other way either, since I generally prefer types to attributes. However, there's no denying attributes are easier and can be added incrementally. Type hierarchies have the further disadvantage of being closed to user extension in C (and effectively so in most other languages as well). Britton