X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=baZz4W5mcbeW1vb8FlsiXy0WSnPtYTMDic9bqRTRSbY=; b=bcJ17YD6hnNqEBL+EjXTJC4AL1ZzwkwzZbmITAhrGpfxfAENoSj4YxtUzCxcUH5lWA 25ee7i4I9v889rUXxlvw+W+jtn0/WHkj05uHc1ynlLOfcJh09QSn0PXo83kv94wTeGtY qNMkHgKpK2O/iu/cueZLCCBV0f0OmcYiZMCKH93or0ccgQdh/MOYKk7/eXWZ2lnlt+MV mPFJkziJacVf5JdZhrOlsK0/NDB5RKhshRjxdrTZU2ZGXtoY1WW/PJRvXqa23mdkCt78 4CxfLCYowE9Vz1PsVxEkpR4Xv7JsCgU2bDsPvNXesyF2T2xkPkLsCXtPqLciD/m5eQON e9Ww== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=baZz4W5mcbeW1vb8FlsiXy0WSnPtYTMDic9bqRTRSbY=; b=X0nWMfzAyMfN7jBvxz6yP8YjohZ21mVFdvXWSf7zpUNqz4ELRwOsWyFydKwBIR9Tlp vD16TG3MgGojjhsBFQj0UTUOl+MpLitj9mco78dixjwqT/asAV96rJk2E+Dn+ylahbR3 0NPSYkz9Sn39cWroR0Y3Gs2SvCaTt7eyU4JkV0fg8lA/EBHO4hVAoF7DFkmTtpEyHQy5 +xjdaimzbJQ+eanltoHlLH7DykRvucvgvFB5Nzpuu3n0Ckzx9trLhg/tdWEGVxHAM5cL oyirLc36ff6HqpvcfMMLBVQNnFuxi80O9W9mHs8qcUlyp0TzI6HzfOacYyem78mpf8n4 nRpw== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YORuP1zZMn3BeGHkMs0IZaS7wYNCj3iU6bWhQ8eLE9SNeq+ag/ULdBl7dvZGPWtvnL17TR17DbilesVZmg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.125.147 with SMTP id y141mr14089606wmc.18.1453144853121; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:20:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 10:20:53 -0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] [pcb] poll: burried/blind vias vs. pcb and pcb-rnd From: "Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11419974c7138f0529a0a65e Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --001a11419974c7138f0529a0a65e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 10:32 PM, wrote: > Hi all, > > after some more code reading I found a way to add support for > burried/blind vias in pcb-rnd with reasonable effort, without first having > to rewrite everything and/or inventing new file formats. This could be the > next big feature in pcb-rnd. > > My only problem is that I do not really feel the need for this feature and > I don't want to spend time developing features that wouldn't be used. I am > not sure about other users, tho. If you are interested, please answer these > questions with yes/no, unless specified otherwise (comments are also > welcome after the yes/no). You can send your answer in private if you want > to reduce list traffic. I will collect answers this week and will publish > anonimized results. > > Please focus on answering the questions - see disclaimer at the bottom; I > will ignore posts that attempt to derail the thread and encourage everyone > else to do the same. > > Note: "you" means personally you, not your friends or subcontractors. > > POLL: > > 1. How many of your boards REQUIRE burried or blind vias? [percentage] > 0 > 2. How many of your boards could BENEFIT burried or blind vias? > [percentage] > 80 > 3. When your board REQUIRED them, do you more often find a workaround to > stick with pcb instead of switching to another design tool? [yes/no] > yes > 4. When your board could BENEFIT using them, do you more often find a > workaround to stick with pcb instead of switching to another design tool? > [yes/no] > yes > 5. Have you ever tried pcb-rnd? [yes/no] > no > 6. Would you try pcb-rnd if it offered blind/burried vias? [yes/no] > no > 7. Would you consider switching to pcb-rnd if it offered blind/burried > vias? [yes/no] > no > 8. Approximately how many boards have you done so far with pcb (pcb > mainline/branches/forks included, using gschem/gnetlist not required)? "1 > board done" means you had one or more physical copies of the board. [rough > estimation, positive integer] > ~15 > 9. Approximately how many boards have you done with other packages? [rough > estimation, positive integer] > 0 > 10. What OS would you prefer to do your pcb layouts on (assuming your > favorite layout tool is/would be available on it)? [one of: (GNU/)Linux, > *BSD, OSX, windows, other; if you like more, select the one you would spend > most time on!] > linux Britton --001a11419974c7138f0529a0a65e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 10:32 PM, <gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu> wrote:
Hi all,

after some more code reading I found a way to add support for burried/blind= vias in pcb-rnd with reasonable effort, without first having to rewrite ev= erything and/or inventing new file formats. This could be the next big feat= ure in pcb-rnd.

My only problem is that I do not really feel the need for this feature and = I don't want to spend time developing features that wouldn't be use= d. I am not sure about other users, tho. If you are interested, please answ= er these questions with yes/no, unless specified otherwise (comments are al= so welcome after the yes/no). You can send your answer in private if you wa= nt to reduce list traffic. I will collect answers this week and will publis= h anonimized results.

Please focus on answering the questions - see disclaimer at the bottom; I w= ill ignore posts that attempt to derail the thread and encourage everyone e= lse to do the same.

Note: "you" means personally you, not your friends or subcontract= ors.

POLL:

1. How many of your boards REQUIRE burried or blind vias? [percentage]
<= /blockquote>

0
=C2=A0
2. How many of your boards could BENEFIT burried or blind vias? [percentage= ]

80
=C2=A0
3. When your board REQUIRED them, do you more often find a workaround to st= ick with pcb instead of switching to another design tool? [yes/no]

yes
=C2=A0
4. When your board could BENEFIT using them, do you more often find a worka= round to stick with pcb instead of switching to another design tool? [yes/n= o]

yes
=C2=A0
5. Have you ever tried pcb-rnd? [yes/no]

no
=C2=A0
6. Would you try pcb-rnd if it offered blind/burried vias? [yes/no]

no
=C2=A0
7. Would you consider switching to pcb-rnd if it offered blind/burried vias= ? [yes/no]

no
=C2= =A0
8. Approximately how many boards have you done so far with pcb (pcb mainlin= e/branches/forks included, using gschem/gnetlist not required)? "1 boa= rd done" means you had one or more physical copies of the board. [roug= h estimation, positive integer]

~15
=C2=A0
9. Approximately how many boards have you done with other packages? [rough = estimation, positive integer]

0
=C2=A0
10. What OS would you prefer to do your pcb layouts on (assuming your favor= ite layout tool is/would be available on it)? [one of: (GNU/)Linux, *BSD, O= SX, windows, other; if you like more, select the one you would spend most t= ime on!]

linux
Britton
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