X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=j4SCoVO5GYxNb8O3CQU1OGMCcER1pm7wZBGL6Z6/wQ4=; b=vwwQTZVd0G32CGH5auVeasDzHqDLkxrvCSKewXgq9Hut5+GxNXMPN/3s4dalQ5sOK3 vwJdDyy3b5IqatoJY3C6f8L8ac5rC5f0biBTazaWbxQ+rvRWTronvHqiS6d99KF9ZGVM MSmKKtqRm6jzd6Yd2TeVWQBAVNgwkmEsG/4Lc/UnnNIllXe+z7jkfwkrRVL3+50siXn2 N+sgSzD7Zw+WrOElnb/ikhnmHPAQVpvIKym0r6BgqYmtwq7dUEfg4nVIHN0y2bLXHE+R CpXPafLZ65F4sir/4N5jZ7EtK/KGBDpjCM0NlEj2Ab+pYI2MWgv5IA9JVO+P/zRD9/l3 8UWg== X-Received: by 10.112.180.138 with SMTP id do10mr17835886lbc.127.1452414409300; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 00:26:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 09:26:44 +0100 From: "Nicklas Karlsson (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] (draw on insulating layers, gerber clear polarity) Message-Id: <20160110092644.2d9c7fbb45d0810dc1e20d4c@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201601092141.u09Lfqoa013235@envy.delorie.com> References: <1512221837 DOT AA25291 AT ivan DOT Harhan DOT ORG> <20160106164022 DOT D0D4E809D79B AT turkos DOT aspodata DOT se> <20160106180912 DOT 42ddf4079d91384f206b7c35 AT gmail DOT com> <20160106191433 DOT 5dc5cb59 AT jive DOT levalinux DOT org> <20160106202817 DOT 56197b2c539d426a1b724c9e AT gmail DOT com> <568E09ED DOT 1080508 AT m0n5t3r DOT info> <568E6354 DOT 80302 AT m0n5t3r DOT info> <20160108002640 DOT 03233b24 AT jive DOT levalinux DOT org> <20160108175259 DOT 127a3f073616758434f7edff AT gmail DOT com> <20160109020345 DOT 1e07cb84 AT jive> <20160109182213.a55836cd56a507d0833b48d6@! gmail.com> <882E12BE-93AD-4A43-B87A-65F05269D6B4 AT noqsi DOT com> <20160109193526 DOT 9f998ebeec0141b637ff5751 AT gmail DOT com> <201601091929 DOT u09JTcKB007869 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20160109212932 DOT a6d4713ee8188e5ca57894cb AT gmail DOT com> <201601092141 DOT u09Lfqoa013235 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0beta1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk > > So clear polarity in gerber files does not work properly? > > I'm going to say "it depends" here. There are things that you think > you can do in gerber using layer polarities, that fabs will get wrong. > We chose to solve the problem (and/or ambiguity) by avoiding polarity > completely. We do all the pos/neg/pos math inside pcb and spit out > only the results. > > Whether to blame the gerber spec, or lazy software at the fabs, is up > to you :-) Even though polarity does not work properly in gerbv and have to worked around it make sense in pcb/gpcb with cutout or clear polarity to "remove" material. I thought about emdedded components and with a cut out of a certain height it could be used for the court yard and for embedded components. Whenever it reach a layer it would make a cut out in that layer. I would say cut out in board layout would make sense although as is now board outline is drawn as a line so there really is nothing to cut from. It have to made from a solid shape, then a cut out could be made. Nicklas Karlsson