X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 14:29:38 -0500 Message-Id: <201601091929.u09JTcKB007869@envy.delorie.com> From: DJ Delorie To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com CC: geda-user AT delorie DOT com In-reply-to: <20160109193526.9f998ebeec0141b637ff5751@gmail.com> (geda-user AT delorie DOT com) Subject: Re: [geda-user] (draw on insulating layers) References: <1512221837 DOT AA25291 AT ivan DOT Harhan DOT ORG> <20160106133049 DOT 5A0E9809D79B AT turkos DOT aspodata DOT se> <20160106143629 DOT 4D39D809D79B AT turkos DOT aspodata DOT se> <20160106164022 DOT D0D4E809D79B AT turkos DOT aspodata DOT se> <20160106180912 DOT 42ddf4079d91384f206b7c35 AT gmail DOT com> <20160106191433 DOT 5dc5cb59 AT jive DOT levalinux DOT org> <20160106202817 DOT 56197b2c539d426a1b724c9e AT gmail DOT com> <568E09ED DOT 1080508 AT m0n5t3r DOT info> <568E6354 DOT 80302 AT m0n5t3r DOT info> <20160108002640 DOT 03233b24 AT jive DOT levalinux DOT org> <20160108175259 DOT 127a3f073616758434f7edff AT gmail DOT com> <20160109020345 DOT 1e07cb84 AT jive> <20160109182213.a55836cd56a507d0833b48d6@! gmail.com> <882E12BE-93AD-4A43-B87A-65F05269D6B4 AT noqsi DOT com> <20160109193526 DOT 9f998ebeec0141b637ff5751 AT gmail DOT com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk > > I cannot make sense of a board cutout as a layer. It’s an > > operation that applies to a set of layers. You're confusing drawing layers with physical layers. PCB's drawing layers are just collections of shapes, much like gschem's "schematics" are just pages of lines. How each layer is interpreted depends on what the people at the fab house are expecting. If you tell them "the shape in this gerber is for internal cutouts", that drawing layer then means "shapes for internal cutouts". > Neither do I. The drawn shape is either a positive image or a cutout. It's just a shape. Interpreting it is up to the humans who talk to each other about what the shapes mean. It would be nice if there were automatic ways of conveying this information (perhaps STEP) but at the moment we're relying on good old "talking" to solve that problem. > Gerber file format have the concept of dark and clear polarity. Irrelevent here, though. And I've seen way too many fabs get this wrong; pcb never takes advantage of this.