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On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 7:42 AM, Frank Miles (fpm AT u DOT washington DOT edu) [via
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

> On Tue, 5 Jan 2016, Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via
> geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 1:32 PM, John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com> wrote:
>>
>>       On Jan 4, 2016, at 12:35 PM, Frank Miles (fpm AT u DOT washington DOT edu)
>> [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>
>>       > On Tue, 29 Dec 2015, John Doty wrote:
>>       >
>>       > [snip]
>>       >
>>       >> Pcb is struggling from the lack of a foundation. I think
>> geda-gaf would be much more popular if there was a good free/open
>>       layout program to export to. If KiCAD ever documents their netlist
>> format?
>>       >
>>       > There is a way to use gschem to produce KiCAD-compatible
>> netlists: see
>>       >       http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/frank_miles/
>>       >
>>       > This uses an older KiCAD netlist format - but it works.
>>       >
>>       > {I used to use "PCB" but got bit by its incomplete DRC}
>>
>>
>> I'm working on DRC at the moment.  Please tell me exactly what got you?
>>
>> Britton
>>
>
> I had a trace that was missing a via.  It's probably been ~2 years, so my
> memory (just like the connection) may be incomplete.
>

And you remember this as a DRC bug.  I'm going to take a guess that you
worked through DRC issues until you had none left, and didn't go back and
"Optimize rats nest" again and watch the message log for the
congratulations message.  Sound right?

I have a branch that improves this situation by just sticking a warning in
DRC and I move again that we simply include it as is until a better fix
comes along.

Britton

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 7:42 AM, Frank Miles (<a href=3D"mailto:fpm AT u DOT wa=
shington.edu">fpm AT u DOT washington DOT edu</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT de=
lorie.com">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>] <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt;</=
span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Tue, 5 Jan 2016, Britton =
Kerin (<a href=3D"mailto:britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">britton=
.kerin AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" target=
=3D"_blank">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>] wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 1:32 PM, John Doty &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jpd AT noqsi DOT c=
om" target=3D"_blank">jpd AT noqsi DOT com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 On Jan 4, 2016, at 12:35 PM, Frank Miles (<a href=3D"m=
ailto:fpm AT u DOT washington DOT edu" target=3D"_blank">fpm AT u DOT washington DOT edu</a>) [vi=
a <a href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-user AT delo=
rie.com</a>] &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank"=
>geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; On Tue, 29 Dec 2015, John Doty wrote:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; [snip]<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt; Pcb is struggling from the lack of a foundati=
on. I think geda-gaf would be much more popular if there was a good free/op=
en<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 layout program to export to. If KiCAD ever documents t=
heir netlist format?<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; There is a way to use gschem to produce KiCAD-com=
patible netlists: see<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"http://www.g=
edasymbols.org/user/frank_miles/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http=
://www.gedasymbols.org/user/frank_miles/</a><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; This uses an older KiCAD netlist format - but it =
works.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; {I used to use &quot;PCB&quot; but got bit by its=
 incomplete DRC}<br>
<br>
<br>
I&#39;m working on DRC at the moment.=C2=A0 Please tell me exactly what got=
 you?<br>
<br>
Britton<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
I had a trace that was missing a via.=C2=A0 It&#39;s probably been ~2 years=
, so my<br>
memory (just like the connection) may be incomplete.<br></blockquote><div><=
br></div><div style=3D"">And you remember this as a DRC bug.=C2=A0 I&#39;m =
going to take a guess that you worked through DRC issues until you had none=
 left, and didn&#39;t go back and &quot;Optimize rats nest&quot; again and =
watch the message log for the congratulations message.=C2=A0 Sound right?</=
div><div style=3D""><br></div><div style=3D"">I have a branch that improves=
 this situation by just sticking a warning in DRC and I move again that we =
simply include it as is until a better fix comes along.</div><div style=3D"=
"><br></div><div style=3D"">Britton</div></div></div></div>

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