X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=5R70Sr0LgHWCLHJQQ1fxTVZ+RXdpw3xRQzrHixGVxyM=; b=m6KZgqwGLr1uFU0CIM7OJ2G3ooZOn5tlToYpT0mPagGnXKpVNNr6H5VpI4YH0spdzO nxESJKNNVWJvnUkglNg4NO7yDtY0IlU50TsPHM2lA8XtyKdA3TeHZKV18GxHn5RuveJc do/O2+suYbd1A2tpQpElcHXX/rEjuntIetPVv0FfOY1ztEYDG4tRIoyrC65ZrKb6aTFt F8wt8eioUnJ0oqeNrfS/yCs4lOnJ82RtiC3jwr9EYiZXz7DBPoHg/ZYNMfh5sYjxuHoq 5Fa9eHgf/M+Dr7/3ZUBCUmHZMKHgFKK2q07gb1fTmbt/L7Hnzi/MQRql/gHApFLXW9Vv jkEQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.6.196 with SMTP id d4mr103788243wja.120.1452038452147; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 16:00:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <F7606A01-5FA2-4BCB-AB84-1FB9408DDD64@noqsi.com> References: <1512221837 DOT AA25291 AT ivan DOT Harhan DOT ORG> <CAJXU7q_qxdvJaejF-VcY=u7VHZ-zrfrc+Z7-qSwfFyPdy-umxw AT mail DOT gmail DOT com> <B02363CD-469D-493A-AC15-1D5DC7836982 AT noqsi DOT com> <20151222232230 DOT 12633 DOT qmail AT stuge DOT se> <0F6F1D0F-4F07-48EA-90FE-836EAD4E2354 AT noqsi DOT com> <CAM2RGhTficnys3a4xs=UBFvk8aPwpzYWUADFLP_pUQ+R1iKs0g AT mail DOT gmail DOT com> <0FCF3774-F93C-4BFF-BB61-636F75DCCACB AT noqsi DOT com> <CAC4O8c_UAiFE-vGfoE2tXppHLhaa0dSYz9o_rkdCBo7_SRRtxw AT mail DOT gmail DOT com> <FFBE7623-E240-4798-96B0-2BECF56C8E29 AT noqsi DOT com> <CAC4O8c980g1gj15=5njstC_BT-WYDgKQx9BRycdFKA8OvgtiOg AT mail DOT gmail DOT com> <B54C0E1F-1986-4C79-9F70-7F1919B8B26D AT noqsi DOT com> <CAC4O8c9bxJP1eMG4yz3YwKkQJRmsDGmLQ0aMd5pJRyu0WpdCtQ AT mail DOT gmail DOT com> <C1CFCCEE-C64A-4E49-AA64-446C061656D6 AT noqsi DOT com> <CAC4O8c-zt8B=joDd+ws77D2jt6aZf3MWfR_dAvpzGcNuBrTURQ AT mail DOT gmail DOT com> <alpine DOT DEB DOT 2 DOT 11 DOT 1601030040320 DOT 2176 AT newt> <D9825C8C-B6FD-4C7F-A8D5-B8AF06253B72 AT noqsi DOT com> <CAC4O8c_R5xWLmzj_cz0g0mPWNs6mR4efjXKGBoup8YO6nwnPTA AT mail DOT gmail DOT com> <A942261D-7C25-4F2D-9CB1-FFC60FA1C160 AT noqsi DOT com> <CAC4O8c8zk8=Py1yX6fVqF+35SYe39Li=y4jZ8bCeZ1Ev8WccAg AT mail DOT gmail DOT com> <20160105182120 DOT 3237F809D79B AT turkos DOT aspodata DOT se> <201601051829 DOT u05IT7TI021027 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <0254E441-E74C-490E-BFF0-DD0BED19F2B2 AT noqsi DOT com> <201601052034 DOT u05KYSuc032326 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <F7606A01-5FA2-4BCB-AB84-1FB9408DDD64 AT noqsi DOT com> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 15:00:51 -0900 Message-ID: <CAC4O8c9YsWsfSCybPgm4L=LMVqv0KPjEbYuiT1o_VbSFDSxH0A@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [geda-user] A fileformat library From: "Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b5d497623ff9e05289f0cbe Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --047d7b5d497623ff9e05289f0cbe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:08 PM, John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com> wrote: > > On Jan 5, 2016, at 3:34 PM, DJ Delorie <dj AT delorie DOT com> wrote: > > > As for kilobyte vs megabyte tools, I think you're just making that up > > - and once again choosing emotionally charged terms where they're > > totally superfluous. A perl script that imports a yaml library is > > going to be significantly shorter than a perl script that has to parse > > a schematic file manually. > > I consider Perl to be a heavy tool of undisciplined design. YAML isn=E2= =80=99t > simple, either. > > "PHP is a minor evil perpetrated and created by incompetent amateurs, > whereas Perl is a great and insidious evil, perpetrated by skilled but > perverted professionals." =E2=80=94 Jon Ribbens. > You're mostly right about perl but god I love it anyway. Unlike most language it's actually different. You can (gasp) say "if condition do_that" or "do_this if condition" just like in every human language and almost no computer languages. Have you looked at perl 6 yet? We may be able to say if $foo =3D=3D 1 or = 2, just like people invariably do, rather than if ( $foo =3D=3D 1 or $foo =3D= =3D 2). Shock horror. Britton --047d7b5d497623ff9e05289f0cbe Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo= te">On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:08 PM, John Doty <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a hre= f=3D"mailto:jpd AT noqsi DOT com" target=3D"_blank">jpd AT noqsi DOT com</a>></span> w= rote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;borde= r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D""><br> On Jan 5, 2016, at 3:34 PM, DJ Delorie <<a href=3D"mailto:dj AT delorie DOT com= ">dj AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br> <br> > As for kilobyte vs megabyte tools, I think you're just making that= up<br> > - and once again choosing emotionally charged terms where they're<= br> > totally superfluous.=C2=A0 A perl script that imports a yaml library i= s<br> > going to be significantly shorter than a perl script that has to parse= <br> > a schematic file manually.<br> <br> </span>I consider Perl to be a heavy tool of undisciplined design. YAML isn= =E2=80=99t simple, either.<br> <br> "PHP is a minor evil perpetrated and created by incompetent amateurs, = whereas Perl is a great and insidious evil, perpetrated by skilled but perv= erted professionals."=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=94 Jon Ribbens.<br></blockqu= ote><div><br></div><div style=3D"">You're mostly right about perl but g= od I love it anyway.=C2=A0 Unlike most language it's actually different= .=C2=A0 You can (gasp) say "if condition do_that" or "do_thi= s if condition" just like in every human language and almost no comput= er languages.</div><div style=3D""><br></div><div style=3D"">Have you looke= d at perl 6 yet?=C2=A0 We may be able to say if $foo =3D=3D =C2=A01 or 2, j= ust like people invariably do, rather than if ( $foo =3D=3D 1 or $foo =3D= =3D 2).</div><div style=3D"">Shock horror.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div s= tyle=3D"">Britton</div></div></div></div> --047d7b5d497623ff9e05289f0cbe--