X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_041882D5-0160-4FA6-B9F6-2FCD457B3C21"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: gEDA and it's future with Scheme & Guile was Re: [geda-user] Project leadership X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5.2 From: John Doty In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 23:04:06 -0700 Message-Id: <162473CB-F589-4E3F-A106-2DE3A0F9CE41@noqsi.com> References: <20151229212943 DOT 2d486c8c AT wind DOT levalinux DOT org> <322D36D8-DAB6-4117-B22B-8FF515B00D2B AT noqsi DOT com> <538AF43A-E94A-433B-B050-AD5C4D48EC4F AT noqsi DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_041882D5-0160-4FA6-B9F6-2FCD457B3C21 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Dec 29, 2015, at 10:24 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via = geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 5:16 AM, John Doty wrote: >>=20 >> On Dec 29, 2015, at 9:57 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via = geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> I assume that they have the best of intentions. I am concerned that = many who want change seem to have a poor understanding of what already = exists. Certainly if you haven=92t mastered Scheme, you have no business = changing the existing geda-gaf core. But new tools are welcome. >>>=20 >>> That is a nice arbitrary road block you are throwing up there. I = don't >>> know we have more than 3 people right now who could be said to be >>> truly proficient in scheme. Given how endangered Scheme programmers >>> are in the wild I think you are dooming the code to bitrot. >>=20 >> Perhaps in the long run I am, but Vladimir seems quite proficient and = eager, so I=92m not worried for the present (and I can muddle my way = through, too). For the future, we have other possibilities like Xorn. >=20 > Using Xorn as you describe really would mean dynamiting the > foundation. No, it=92s building on a new foundation while leaving the old entirely = intact. > Why can't you see something other than black and white > here? I can, but you always turn the contrast up. > It is not like geda was built in one day, in a perfect > immaculate conception. It evolved and you can see that in the code. It=92s merely better than most software. > How can you possibly be so sure that it can't evolve positively in the > future via added functionality? I=92m not sure, but would-be developers who don=92t understand what=92s = already there and want to charge in and change things make me nervous. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com --Apple-Mail=_041882D5-0160-4FA6-B9F6-2FCD457B3C21 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWg3PWAAoJEF1Aj/0UKykReUQQALY0mxY0W4CRKyDF7lBLx6HT sqCR0ruii8E6eTtCUUZSO5RSMYucZaItDsduNeUxTSdUWXWhpU48lzPbTqUNZcEi fDsmw8YX6uENMGnngZt+Q5PzpChAe+evQxEEEqeZQdMSo18qYmQk5z2ttFuWlvjX 3jGO2oeKTuhQBYbFauKkgyu5ONB2dMjhyeweXaacQiyRaZP7Ia0UR8blyuQ35bR8 k44XwwME5VhIZT0MaXPpebFaEss50jbMBMq1q7gQQmuvfIqvFKKmnDK4kCBTWjSy syVUSoCEs07ZbQq1Rh9BuXWye6FD36gXi7j3xCWDaSkgwJatDRoYVjo/7eQdAzqk yu1FzdoW8f4b1+SEtDJHAuy9eAOQSCrlJDaiaelp1fqIGtZIeplYdpcbdRnlAeFo 2ebdrCkdiibC6IrcFf9wLA+BMzdEoXUPS2LdOCPr/8Fh9qHQGceCP4GpQwLZ7s0T Bxue/pRlBxQ1LVvNJXG96NBWIDC7vpnPxF5iouqOrr5KVpqRqenKp0S645IELeTr +JpWBQmIZRJhN/VYmO/kvX1QSZIMQZxpsapguZVd4azluDYaT4XUlOwmh80YIMhy L2CxRr1yFMM0xgtjVQ8MxPuBBB8upA6rl4YAOzU6mSKszt7qovm5dXDUW5+3QVmL NJ87/yvWQ5wFyDuwxSNj =Y3lB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_041882D5-0160-4FA6-B9F6-2FCD457B3C21--