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On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 12:29 AM, John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com> wrote:
> >
> > On Dec 28, 2015, at 4:24 PM, DJ Delorie <dj AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>> There are really two projects here: The original gEDA (now
> >>> confusingly called geda-gaf),
> >>
> >> It was so named by the Great God Ales when he decided that gEDA meant
> >> "all GNU EDA projects" and not just your favorite one.
> >>
> >>> and pcb.
> >>
> >> You're forgetting gedasymbols, gerbv, icarus verilog, gtkwave, and
> >> probably others.
> >
> > .., ngspice, gnucap, ..
> >
> > But there=E2=80=99s no confusion about those because they have their ow=
n
> management and communication infrastructure. Pcb needs the same thing.
>
> Agreed.


Strongly disagree.  The projects are inevitably connected by the fact that
the user bases overlap by probably 90% or more, and both are fairly small.
Like it or not their fates are intertwined and it's in the interests of
both for us to get along at least minimally.  Which we're actually sort of
doing.  John doesn't want gschem to get busted because he's been burned by
changes in the past.  He's welcome to sound the alarm over anything
concrete that he knows may cause breakage.  We can object if his criticism
is too vague of unfairly singles out pcb for criticism.

Britton

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Evan Foss (<a href=3D"mailto:evanfoss@=
gmail.com">evanfoss AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie=
.com">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>] <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ge=
da-user AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt;</span>=
 wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bor=
der-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">On Tue, Dec 29, =
2015 at 12:29 AM, John Doty &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jpd AT noqsi DOT com">jpd AT noqsi.=
com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Dec 28, 2015, at 4:24 PM, DJ Delorie &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dj AT delor=
ie.com">dj AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; There are really two projects here: The original gEDA (now<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; confusingly called geda-gaf),<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; It was so named by the Great God Ales when he decided that gEDA me=
ant<br>
&gt;&gt; &quot;all GNU EDA projects&quot; and not just your favorite one.<b=
r>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; and pcb.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; You&#39;re forgetting gedasymbols, gerbv, icarus verilog, gtkwave,=
 and<br>
&gt;&gt; probably others.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; .., ngspice, gnucap, ..<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; But there=E2=80=99s no confusion about those because they have their o=
wn management and communication infrastructure. Pcb needs the same thing.<b=
r>
<br>
</span>Agreed.</blockquote><div><br></div><div style=3D"">Strongly disagree=
.=C2=A0 The projects are inevitably connected by the fact that the user bas=
es overlap by probably 90% or more, and both are fairly small.</div><div st=
yle=3D"">Like it or not their fates are intertwined and it&#39;s in the int=
erests of both for us to get along at least minimally.=C2=A0 Which we&#39;r=
e actually sort of doing.=C2=A0 John doesn&#39;t want gschem to get busted =
because he&#39;s been burned by changes in the past.=C2=A0 He&#39;s welcome=
 to sound the alarm over anything concrete that he knows may cause breakage=
.=C2=A0 We can object if his criticism is too vague of unfairly singles out=
 pcb for criticism.</div><div style=3D""><br></div><div style=3D"">Britton=
=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0</div></div></div></div>

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