X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=KEzRobkfi8/Jc7/Bf48bBysC8Xty5RRJozNbWxKhYzI=; b=Jd+yrvovplZcjhGJCqLB90Kse74EwtA0OdvuYEec43DLRNO+QkZf4+QrbLnofbz1fz TfFtPu6HkQZnlIR+MFA9kce253AHn1a5zWAhr7cCGIu/waT0RoyDa3XBmaQoVx30DBoo niTn25VqZJ50O/o8YxOuxtjHhEKEST+MW/hlV6aiafzu1YhKWeNpLS2EtPU8xrMKgJ8z H8+jLPM7ZNhDsDSPLcze5keCN1IfjvV4IK6z7zY6YZdJLGuEmiFVGD0x0GEm069OVxgY C9sgRze82NecIBKWFJEa1ilyx183h7Y76a9k1lRFrx8yudgfE/zkBm6ryMVnEGP+yY51 80OA== X-Received: by 10.25.43.212 with SMTP id r203mr15611973lfr.162.1451409143980; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 09:12:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 20:12:21 +0300 From: "Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] Project leadership Message-ID: <20151229171221.GB3752@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com References: <5AC3D5C5-144F-41AE-9562-47BC34D9047F AT noqsi DOT com> <20151222193859 DOT 26898 DOT qmail AT stuge DOT se> <20151223202851 DOT 637d5b1f AT jive DOT levalinux DOT org> <20151223195846 DOT 8392 DOT qmail AT stuge DOT se> <5681E059 DOT 9070202 AT ecosensory DOT com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5681E059.9070202@ecosensory.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 07:22:33PM -0600, John Griessen wrote: > On 12/28/2015 06:46 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > >I thought PCB was lead by DJ? > > PCB is needing a champion, and I don't see how that will be helped by splitting it off. All our projects need champions. I don't believe those could be people who don't work on the code or on the documentation/ideas some way. I could name those people driving us forward for some of our projects: I see the man who continues to pull all gEDA with all its contradictions is DJ, the man who continues to work fine on PCB is Bert. Unfortunately, geda-gaf has lost such a leader (I mean Peter B.) due to unfriendly acts of some our collaborators. I very appreciate Edward's work though I feel we see geda-gaf future differently. I, for one, wish to unify geda core functions and rewrite them in Scheme in order to get rid of our C-Scheme-C structure, throw out duplicated functionality, simplify internal structure, and make functions less opaque for both C and Scheme levels. (BTW, gschem has REPL now, are you aware of it? ;)) As DJ has said (related to another issue), we cannot win in the state we have now. We need leaders for every our projects. And if he/she decides we must go the way I don't want to, I'll better leave rather than annoy people and stay on our user's way (am I wrong here?). Cheers, Vladimir