X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Message-ID: <20151223032722.30704.qmail@stuge.se> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 04:27:22 +0100 From: "Peter Stuge (peter AT stuge DOT se) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: gEDA User Mailing List Subject: Re: [geda-user] Personal accusations (was Project leadership) Mail-Followup-To: gEDA User Mailing List References: <1512230042 DOT AA26144 AT ivan DOT Harhan DOT ORG> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1512230042.AA26144@ivan.Harhan.ORG> Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk Mychaela Falconia wrote: > > there was some upset and behavior which wasn't really supporting the > > project but really only their own cause. > > Not supporting "the project"? *Which* project? Please define the > difference between a project and a cause. I got a cause and I made > a project out of it - my own project. Yes - sorry for not being more clear here - I tried to make a distinction between the pre-existing project and your own project, but I didn't express it very well. I think you did exactly the right thing creating an own project! I also think the way you went about it made for a bumpier road (if not for yourself then for others who were already working in the pre-existing project(s)) than was neccessary. > Where is the problem? There is no problem and ideally that remains the case. The only thing sortof being a problem is that I was left with a less than stellar impression of your interactions within other contexts. :\ > If someone got fed up enough with the current shortcomings of > gEDA/PCB to start their own competing project, I fully expect they > would be posting here, and plugging their alternative every time > someone complains about the lack of blind and buried vias in our > current PCB. I would wish for them to be more, hm, maybe graceful. > Or are you perhaps upset about the unpleasant things I had to do in > order to obtain the necessary starting-point materials for my phone > project, starting-point materials that aren't entirely legal? I'm not upset about anything really, but being legal is indeed an important topic for all open source and free software projects! I guess we don't have to worry about problems in this project. The scope is quite different and to end by coming back on topic I do want to stress that I think your work on using Verilog for netlists is important and useful! Well done and thanks a lot! Maybe you saw that a couple of gEDA folks will be at FOSDEM - is there any chance that you'll go too? //Peter