X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 00:42:33 GMT From: falcon AT ivan DOT Harhan DOT ORG (Mychaela Falconia) Message-Id: <1512230042.AA26144@ivan.Harhan.ORG> To: gEDA User Mailing List Subject: Re: [geda-user] Personal accusations (was Project leadership) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Peter Stuge (peter AT stuge DOT se) wrote: > This person has background within other projects which isn't great, > there was some upset and behavior which wasn't really supporting the > project but really only their own cause. Not supporting "the project"? *Which* project? Please define the difference between a project and a cause. I got a cause and I made a project out of it - my own project. A lot of FOSS projects are born this way - it's called scratching a personal itch. Where is the problem? As for the cause being only my own, several other people besides me have already benefited from my work. Or are you upset about me occasionally promoting my own libre phone project on mailing lists associated with other projects that are also part of the more general phone liberation scene? Well, such plugging is a necessity, as otherwise there would be absolutely no way for members of the general community (*general* community, not specific to one particular project) to learn about the existence of a new project in the same general domain. If someone got fed up enough with the current shortcomings of gEDA/PCB to start their own competing project, I fully expect they would be posting here, and plugging their alternative every time someone complains about the lack of blind and buried vias in our current PCB. Or are you perhaps upset about the unpleasant things I had to do in order to obtain the necessary starting-point materials for my phone project, starting-point materials that aren't entirely legal? Well, sorry, but life is not always pretty. The things I did absolutely had to be done, there was no other way. And as I already said, others besides me have already benefited from the result. M~ P.S. I am intentionally avoiding the sordid details as they are far too OT for this list.