X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9AC35C21-9406-4386-9B99-70B08D859ECD"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] Project leadership X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5.2 From: John Doty In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 16:02:04 -0700 Message-Id: References: <1512221837 DOT AA25291 AT ivan DOT Harhan DOT ORG> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_9AC35C21-9406-4386-9B99-70B08D859ECD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Dec 22, 2015, at 2:43 PM, Peter Clifton = (petercjclifton AT googlemail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] = wrote: > I think your suggested flow captures it... >=20 > I'm presuming ueda has an element which can parse the verilog into a > PCB netlist. >=20 >=20 > Longer term, I'd love to see the "core" ("EdaCore" or "openEDA" - > whatever) library support the primitive concept of netlists, and we > could just teach _that_ to read verilog, as well as the gschem stuff > (then merge from multiple sources into one netlist - and spit out via > whatever backend / plugin suits your target environment). I=92ve been doing that merge for years. There may be a more elegant way, = but my way works without any difficulty. http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/john_doty/tools/pins2gsch.html Also, I put the data into my LaTeX docs as tables alongside the = schematics. Very handy when you=92re probing a connector in test. http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/john_doty/tools/pins2tex.html Three column TSV representation makes netlist fragments easy to process. = Here=92s a script that joins a pin map from Vivado to a pin name to net = name map and generates suitable input for pins2gsch: = https://github.com/TESScience/FPE/blob/master/FPE/Schematic/makeFPGApinmap= .awk >=20 > Bonus points for PCB using the core-library too, so it can "give up" > its one preferred on-disk netlist format, and read any useful ones we > care to implement a reader for in the core EDA library. I=92m quite skeptical of a core library. An agreed-upon external data = representation is handy, but tool writers will want their own internal = representations in their own languages for their own problems. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com --Apple-Mail=_9AC35C21-9406-4386-9B99-70B08D859ECD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWedZtAAoJEF1Aj/0UKykRspYP/1KJOFRJO/7SWsoyuFlk2vpX Uy3QBUX0nkfCP3TECHgxCSVEyEhgqBvhJTHYV9UhFjk2Cx4KHqL7gjQUPZ/Hueq+ dlfXav+vm13+0Ir52g7snTauWKqPOmrk+XZC+wI+VIvIXwvEV9N0OgN+QQYF1uY7 pDcDGxoXohpWl/kgAb0p2YUx+8yrR3eMPvOeVT3AjRsSvBxjSTYV4kQt4K3k5t9R LHobBSyQkMJ/bWClJLER8X6R1pqSANskVU0yGsJifKkMuFz+sWchkdhlEYShLUr7 wTrLEIrq77EjNzBavd9NBO44uE17aGbs/capmFO1S5Jb+TG/w7v0vBIY/9HiEkZw 5ALSyvaBkO4towCy/X7rUKSJKOrZmRCDKV9PjwO/VJdaBmanv+Bk13B8mwqLpqcB SJ6+LsVLFLS0FiXM3+hlmkMeDHLbyKo5owISDMmdvtlM7M1joZHN/xf8m+ToTPGs dPYg/dxolZ0/O+/wiEcF/dnAxCppGvV4KTtPJoyV2NaQxVUpx6QlJyzT15hHCy1A YEv1WhiL8VbYmLjC6xuuPjTgIWWCDVz1FJdIz46P2heOOZTg3bJQnDWtA/HWL7q6 jPaV9PpNuJHaviWKlDolun8KFa7E0oUfC0nb6he8OeGbhCYdwXhPWDbqZtjuvAfz 2N0liwaSutFbOFNX/Ngq =yYBm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_9AC35C21-9406-4386-9B99-70B08D859ECD--