X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8QS1WTmNSyhX/6R4JPvZzD7OlUbStZcBvtuITLQGpro=; b=NtI117I0eGkgSD17L+DayyPzSjgB9OWD8qdvLydgppKYhb1RILgnXi3QPuqurGYCwp rWrzIztXeL62scxqEjcLPMd7YSfntl9Pa/dHiN1oIKQ68+AicTgnYG2jgCofDo328MhS K3eZHjkLTSiNi3f8fuBZm0fbqarlNHq0qysaQi3ASWK8RHGpHFjaTJRUCROWc8yi9V/d ZhJ1moRo5sPUovB+/StxsqkhS3m6xY+sxULyhv5VcOYDTE52K1WAztw4VrCq9Ld17QwH 809Dd309/7/tWGW3/4KIIyikJDw2607pxXC9mNxAsjKnYN5Whv7JIafx/liF0rrSakAX EkrQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.201.77 with SMTP id z74mr11936539oif.24.1450820608134; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 13:43:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1512221837 DOT AA25291 AT ivan DOT Harhan DOT ORG> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 21:43:28 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] Project leadership From: "Peter Clifton (petercjclifton AT googlemail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: gEDA User Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id tBMLhVP1015444 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk I think your suggested flow captures it... I'm presuming ueda has an element which can parse the verilog into a PCB netlist. Longer term, I'd love to see the "core" ("EdaCore" or "openEDA" - whatever) library support the primitive concept of netlists, and we could just teach _that_ to read verilog, as well as the gschem stuff (then merge from multiple sources into one netlist - and spit out via whatever backend / plugin suits your target environment). Bonus points for PCB using the core-library too, so it can "give up" its one preferred on-disk netlist format, and read any useful ones we care to implement a reader for in the core EDA library. Peter On 22 December 2015 at 21:33, Stephan Böttcher wrote: > > "Peter Clifton (petercjclifton AT googlemail DOT com) [via > geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" writes: > >> I really believe you are on to a very strong concept here... >> schematics have their place IMO, but look at many modern designs >> (laptop etc., say?) and see how that graphical the format of >> schematics is really being pushed beyond its most effective. > > People tell me that a schematic drawing should illustrate the function > of a circuit. But most of that function is hidden inside the µC and > FPGA. So, my symbols and schematics are more a preview of the layout, > to get a good first shot at (functionally arbitrary) pin assignements. > > Like this one: http://www.ieap.uni-kiel.de/et/people/stephan/rpirena/ > > I thought about using Verilog as netlist format for PCBs. How would I > convert those to pcb netlists, with some graphical drawings added in the > mix? > > gschem, gnetlist --> Verilog > Verilog --> ueda --> PCB netlist > > ? > > -- > Stephan >