X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Gh8hKbSVasg/wedzLjdRY+HVfCgq4DjGMG8GZXlNZ+k=; b=vz4pUxuNIw3j5l4ZxUEXgVl9SpkH9BsOMj1mYRv+wNAOT7WMMDUQdikNRirMzJrOYm PlBmo7aSyfLwHEDVEX+UaXdPgDAp986uzoGBztsBwonNO60zuAR7KYsnaQOfzqTEZLtq 2/x/qwB5OVXhG68ClD2Hh3xRX233QjJscnvJk7C+POwjj4+qbTZqLZdFww4aiAr6i8OA 2P2Jslomz5nhIrGhOgyM6CurDSFMQfPvJGIohunsONoI3vtdrbUUUIFAcRJkWzB3Vhlf 81Jx+EPBBYmeuOWKf2ouaHmd7spjMw9u9kcr3qfXCzTioHDrDSJyC5aP7EhdfvwzVM4u DxNg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.125.147 with SMTP id y141mr27342409wmc.18.1450812965499; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 11:36:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20151221030451 DOT 02399163eb3e40f21c622c41 AT gmail DOT com> <20151221203331 DOT 20837 DOT qmail AT stuge DOT se> <20151222002012 DOT a88d7fe32a9336855eccd1d0 AT gmail DOT com> <201512220412 DOT tBM4CJxb018546 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:36:05 -0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] Proposing a New Hierarchical Data Structure? From: "Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1141997471b949052781b765 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --001a1141997471b949052781b765 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 4:50 AM, Peter Clifton ( petercjclifton AT googlemail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] < geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote: > On 22 December 2015 at 04:39, wrote: > > > Nope. As far as I understood, we are considering the very first step of a > > roadmap. The first step is about how to pick a file format or data > > structure. Peter proposed a specific standard and listed a lot of pros. > > > > My point is only this: not having the standard freely available is a con > > that we should not ignore. > > This is true.. and I've pointed one of the key players in the AP210 > standard at this discussion thread, to see if any impact might be made > on the situation. > > Personally, I doubt we can change the situation... the ISO is big and > ugly, and we are _tiny_. > What I don't quite get is why, once they're already down to a price that is as you point out really pretty damn cheap for what it is and probably nowhere near covering real costs, they can't make the jump to free. I suspect its a situation like with AutoCAD where there are noisy voices out there who don't really want it that available. --001a1141997471b949052781b765 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 4:50 AM, Peter Clifton (petercjclifton AT googlemail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-use= r AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
On 22 December 2015 at 04:39,=C2=A0 <gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu> wrote:

> Nope. As far as I understood, we are considering the very first step o= f a
> roadmap. The first step is about how to pick a file format or data
> structure. Peter proposed a specific standard and listed a lot of pros= .
>
> My point is only this: not having the standard freely available is a c= on
> that we should not ignore.

This is true.. and I've pointed one of the key players in the AP= 210
standard at this discussion thread, to see if any impact might be made
on the situation.

Personally, I doubt we can change the situation... the ISO is big and
ugly, and we are _tiny_.

Wha= t I don't quite get is why, once they're already down to a price th= at is as you point out really pretty damn cheap for what it is and probably= nowhere near covering real costs, they can't make the jump to free.=C2= =A0 I suspect its a situation like with AutoCAD where there are noisy voice= s out there who don't really want it that available.

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