X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_3852E703-263B-4CCB-AE8E-A60D4ADDFB0F"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] Cross project collaboration on data models X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5.2 From: John Doty In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:38:12 -0700 Message-Id: References: To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_3852E703-263B-4CCB-AE8E-A60D4ADDFB0F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Dec 22, 2015, at 10:10 AM, Peter Clifton = (petercjclifton AT googlemail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] = wrote: > When I first started working on gEDA, that it crashed with _annoying_ > regularity... we fixed LOADS of bugs there, and a lot of it was due to > latent bugs exposed by changes in the glib memory manager. gEDA was > always wrong, but it took external changes to convert "wrong but > works", into "crashes and eats your work every 5 minutes". Do you > recall those days? Not really. It=92s always been pretty good in my flows. I, of course, = think fixing bugs that lead to crashes is a highly virtuous activity. >=20 > I have a dim memory of one particularly cruel crash, where it was > triggered by the auto-save code backing up your work (I may also have > just made that up!). The one thing that led to many corrupted schematics in one of my = projects was a change in the attribute promotion policy, promoting = attributes that I had intended to control in heavy symbols. That made a = real mess. I suppose that the developer who made the change thought it = would be helpful, but it was a naughty thing to do. >=20 > I think you often confuse my thoughts on better "integration" or > better "interoperability" with producing an all-in-one closed > tool-chain like KiCAD. Nope.. yuck, yucky. (And IMO, we ought to rip > out all the flattened net-list, PCB like work-flow specific hacks out > of gnetlist). Except that most layout tools (not just pcb) take flattened netlists as = input. So, that=92s a generally useful capability. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com --Apple-Mail=_3852E703-263B-4CCB-AE8E-A60D4ADDFB0F Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWeYqFAAoJEF1Aj/0UKykR+HEP/2dwUmyN5I1uaRWQnXp1rkrC NjjscHs5WwqiFSYDD1tOrs7dcX+Pd+twwwxRelNfMzdLu6CIEcHlrEFTKm/QHTa3 HnxcT7njQjcmqC2WWhRWmBijR/GFV9eQ6a37X4gDAvPLjg4Eo/9jCemGv/780BJ9 F0YNGYWzaWZZ7OhClQoGzWA8idPVQL4/TU7/2hfYcrHSVlIrBAQw7eWzqNR4OgIR M+nJhMer+ppzeiDF+EHTwvnnG5MvwTrYgUcJOdeIymGzj3IKKly085AiJ3o7r/Wb Mkzc7NX54dpy8ahhQ3zIUsk40D4SllSeuHSkKSyGl+S2vSFhFH3dIT0GGQJnnyj5 DMr/dTyBvMSxpTSztcurT1IbO6WpirrDjp1OXIrRXLmBJSOMe4fRQrsA6KXUD0/J GPpgIZA59qPHUhuhYm7hOGwRPXnh73+1mxoqUx2MxFw6skKonTAVKACIvEGvHhbG e71W+taN81Dst2LMPwGI6lzj9M2do6GkW/Ny3pO3M/DYS6PLbB+Sc9bM2RDoav6/ FbNFvuC2Cxp0KfZyTKs5N0sRTlRh1ssZR6kT+dkoBKydLdE+ZA1Wgfkeaft7Rr8G T/Q+aIKneMeG2t/qoykSp/H9e50ax+1MuCMwgmor4sU4DFezbvPiw2RhPjORCEvx pv7Ui47ba47q6svO97Sp =kC1/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_3852E703-263B-4CCB-AE8E-A60D4ADDFB0F--