X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=O5z+/URJ7HbsbaokPgG8PZuifmvw5S5PWdWOkynjcNE=; b=D6zcToC6htD8oWeZbggaJPqfDWE4A/gd5TgkBGuB5jMdy3FVlav3gBMzx3mDyn6Z4p yi9NYFibyRQPCdkr30OIMEFV6pt+Ty4gTjG3wbEpjbe3qY18UpMiuwhbBRGvFlxWw44+ P2D2R31ioxfG4O2swRghAOLIXJzX16SXozs1Rw93jo36nqLwtABrAoTYkuXSD0qEIYHR dlMF++boP12/3IkGFgcgoEeS1GCtzsE9hdPLhOJXqVJ5asdEqWXfnTLXiDeRDa/bcY3h 3uvSxM6D/H9Du9k7aU3N5VndVgvTAkmuPcF0gmg0AKemOdlUpH5V3RdMC+xP4yMoYoKV ow4w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.47.212 with SMTP id v203mr9305400wmv.37.1447517642071; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 08:14:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151114170428.401dd4f7d2154b4a6b815ec0@gmail.com> References: <20151112171657 DOT aa3f15ddf01aed520f2cab3d AT gmail DOT com> <5644DF76 DOT 5080302 AT xs4all DOT nl> <20151113110014 DOT 3f3e467a89848623a1ef7384 AT gmail DOT com> <20151114170428 DOT 401dd4f7d2154b4a6b815ec0 AT gmail DOT com> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:14:01 -0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] pcb, add insert via hotkey, trace/route move From: "Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11423b2edca7e305248276b5 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --001a11423b2edca7e305248276b5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 7:04 AM, Nicklas (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 18:04:00 -0900 > "Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" < > geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 1:00 AM, Nicklas Karlsson ( > > nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] < > > geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 11:45:47 +0300 > > > "Sergey Alyoshin (alyoshin DOT s AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" < > > > geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 7:32 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak < > kmk AT familieknaak DOT de> > > > wrote: > > > > > Bert Timmerman wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Most, if not all, single keys are already taken/reserved, see > > > > >> > > > > > Seems like a reason to introduce context sensitive hot keys. > > > > > > > > How about Shift+Click or Double Click? > > > > > > Usually there is a need to change layer and continue on another layer > so > > > if the layer change buttons are used only one key stroke is necessary. > > > Essentially if layer is changed while drawing a trace/route it make > sense > > > to insert a via. > > > > > > Numeric buttons 1...n is used for layer change so usually layer change > > > could be done with left hand without releasing right hand from mouse > and > > > this is also convinient for a common task. > > > > > > > Isn't this already how it works? I'm not clear if you're proposing a > > change or asking a question > > Yes layer change is done this way but if layer is changed will drawing a > trace/route I propose a via should be inserted so routing could be > continued on another layer. I already tried and it works pretty well > although I did not figure how to detect if a line was drawn and > accidentally hit line mode active instead. > But so far as I can tell it already does this. Does it not work for you? Britton --001a11423b2edca7e305248276b5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 7:04 AM, Nicklas (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com<= /a>> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015= 18:04:00 -0900
"Britton Kerin (britton.ker= in AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT d= elorie.com]" <geda-use= r AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 1:00 AM, Nicklas Karlsson (
> nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gma= il.com) [via geda-user AT delorie= .com] <
> geda-user AT delorie DOT com>= wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 11:45:47 +0300
> > "Sergey Alyoshin (al= yoshin DOT s AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-= user AT delorie DOT com]" <
> > geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 7:32 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak <kmk AT familieknaak DOT de>
> > wrote:
> > > > Bert Timmerman=C2=A0 wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Most, if not all, single keys are already taken/res= erved, see
> > > >>
> > > > Seems like a reason to introduce context sensitive hot = keys.
> > >
> > > How about Shift+Click or Double Click?
> >
> > Usually there is a need to change layer and continue on another l= ayer so
> > if the layer change buttons are used only one key stroke is neces= sary.
> > Essentially if layer is changed while drawing a trace/route it ma= ke sense
> > to insert a via.
> >
> > Numeric buttons 1...n is used for layer change so usually layer c= hange
> > could be done with left hand without releasing right hand from mo= use and
> > this is also convinient for a common task.
> >
>
> Isn't this already how it works?=C2=A0 I'm not clear if you= 9;re proposing a
> change or asking a question

Yes layer change is done this way but if layer is changed will drawing a tr= ace/route I propose a via should be inserted so routing could be continued = on another layer. I already tried and it works pretty well although I did n= ot figure how to detect if a line was drawn and accidentally hit line mode = active instead.

But so far a= s I can tell it already does this.=C2=A0 Does it not work for you?=C2=A0

Britton
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