X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 18.111.78.44 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_6E6F8CE7-EB57-4833-8008-FFAB685644B8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] Pin mapping (separate symbols from mappings) X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5.2 From: John Doty In-Reply-To: <20151025192608.afc58478b5e9e3a59378ba30@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 12:29:19 -0400 Message-Id: <3FCCC0CE-FCD9-4975-8E61-57BC96A8A174@noqsi.com> References: <20151018204010 DOT 9cce6a231dcc296256e187bd AT gmail DOT com> <1A419AED-FCCA-4B1F-8589-912435534E2E AT noqsi DOT com> <201510191647 DOT t9JGlu4j024585 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <041FF42A-691F-4E6B-9DEB-8C6B3C2F3E53 AT noqsi DOT com> <201510191850 DOT t9JIop8Y029095 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201510192055 DOT t9JKt2o6005861 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <1E816300-E31E-4B85-B51D-7EAEC5A466BF AT noqsi DOT com> <201510192110 DOT t9JLAFKG007281 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201510192340 DOT t9JNeo6n020302 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201510240510 DOT t9O5AvSi019180 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <27CCBD21-273A-45CD-B0E9-6FAA64AFFFB7 AT noqsi DOT com> <20151025192608 DOT afc58478b5e9e3a59378ba30 AT g! mail.com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_6E6F8CE7-EB57-4833-8008-FFAB685644B8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Oct 25, 2015, at 2:26 PM, Nicklas Karlsson = (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] = wrote: > Then i used gschem today on a hierarchical design today I was thinking = why do there need to be numbers on pins in schematic at all? Another = work flow be to add the numbers by gnetlist there may still be numbers = in special cases then there is a need to distinguish pins with same = name. Purpose of netlister then doing layout is to assign footprint pin = number but then doing simulation there is no need to assign footprint = pin number. Gnetlist mainly navigates the design via refdes, pinnumber, and netname. = It can=92t function properly unless the user provides refdes and = pinnumber. However, if the user doesn=92t provide netname, it just = assigns one. It seems to me that the approach would be more consistent = if gnetlist also assigned unique refdes and pinnumber values if those = are missing. Providing sensible defaults for missing data would be generally useful. = There are, for example, symbols like spice-options-1 that need a refdes = as a handle, but the actual value of the refdes does not matter. Having = the user provide the refdes is just an unnecessary complication. It can = cause confusion in case of a duplicate. Another place where a lack of = default is clumsy and ugly is in the net=3D attribute. Couldn=92t the = pin default to =931=94? John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com --Apple-Mail=_6E6F8CE7-EB57-4833-8008-FFAB685644B8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWLlTfAAoJEF1Aj/0UKykRxjwP+wR9XGCCZvI3m6RucQY48JAl 6CBcAypPw3ZvsKmaGB0jnVStZRda39eaQNERPRHAXCGHWdriHViXeZeysNOX2JCY 5kj4RAcmDl+x5n7hZ5eOTPtcchIZm6xowGdl3UtSp/ExLcIsErX1nxAH9ubsM2Nk O13VDm0Yb962bVy/3U8AsQVI/yfW9gHzSgnltSRrRl2MmtduImRM0XTUdVBn2k42 voWt//+m0koaOqY929+OIhYacdxvLukVE/qh08hCjDgNZx5/P95wba29QsJ0mcZ7 N5iv8vGQ7tU+Z93jqFKzAeadzGyy+ZkIhNPNxYvtZsY9NyHtUYID4N+2b7wONgGI rORObF03+5gEUESFF73STQDgr0e4QVjOnnD/Bha78udd3lg8BKicglT9fTeMIOAq G82iwBHit05KjTGdljKzrvhxU1yEmAjg75AjeoMRRoZaWBAY8TaXXP5ox/R01Ser 5/i8HXa2GF6lZMvvd9lOKMDlmu6fkkB7UvqWrMOu7Rbk9PJgVpo7hMIIn7hTzPfc 8Ro2siNIBnCvFZ1Cq658h9lK19krBV1x5YUmuSFDQ28ThfF6G8NUlrQeyMVLLICn j9X0hwQsHg7iqBKTTS/cyfW6rvxxwNKgtNZFIClJ6pz9PKIFE5DfCkBSo9DZM5rm i15L7l2hYYumR/nBnqF8 =BlSL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_6E6F8CE7-EB57-4833-8008-FFAB685644B8--