X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Envelope-From: paubert AT iram DOT es Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 01:42:31 +0200 From: "Gabriel Paubert (paubert AT iram DOT es) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: "Dave McGuire (mcguire AT neurotica DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Subject: Re: [geda-user] Stable and low noise references Message-ID: <20151024234230.GA15475@visitor2.iram.es> References: <201510162117 DOT 12255 DOT ad252 AT freeelectron DOT net> <20151023070213 DOT GA19358 AT visitor2 DOT iram DOT es> <20151023212815 DOT GA31581 AT visitor2 DOT iram DOT es> <20151024225457 DOT GA25400 AT visitor2 DOT iram DOT es> <562C0FBF DOT 2050604 AT neurotica DOT com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <562C0FBF.2050604@neurotica.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Spamina-Bogosity: Unsure X-Spamina-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spamina-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (-0.2 points) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: neurotica.com] -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.4771] Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 07:09:51PM -0400, Dave McGuire (mcguire AT neurotica DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > On 10/24/2015 06:54 PM, Gabriel Paubert (paubert AT iram DOT es) [via > geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > >>> This is becoming offtopic, but the LTZ1000A is, to my knowledge, still > >>> the best reference available in terms of noise and long term stability, > >>> and until a few years ago, I only used buried Zener references when I > >>> needed high stability. > >> > >> It is. If you look at any of the tear downs people do of meters above > >> 6 digits they are all using that reference or one made by LT custom > >> for Fluke. > > > > I was not aware of that, but this means that this device has cornered a > > market from people accepting to pay for the performance and might not be > > EOLed too quickly. > > This is very much an LT thing. I think I can count the number of > parts they've EOLed, ever, on one hand. Maybe two, but not by much. It is true that LT is one of the most conservative companies in this respect, they apparently do not easily decide to EOL a given part. That's one of the reasons for which I sometimes select LT over otehr products from competitors. However, they have EOLed a lot of metal can and ceramic packages, for example the LT1028 was originally available in metal can and ceramic DIP. And these packages had at least a higher max operating Tj, so there is no direct replacement. I also just discovered that I was wrong about metal can, the LT1021 is still available in TO-5; however some of the voltage/grade combinations have been obsoleted, and this includes all 7V versions. Gabriel