X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com From: Kai-Martin Knaak Subject: Re: [geda-user] A lesson from gnet-makefile Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 23:27:29 +0200 Organization: Institut =?UTF-8?B?ZsO8cg==?= Quantenoptik Lines: 56 Message-ID: References: <1042003D-82E2-40F0-AB60-8186580C46AD AT noqsi DOT com> <201510121905 DOT t9CJ5T9W026297 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <88EA58F5-2B23-498A-9E5B-84054976DBED AT noqsi DOT com> <4D3CD563-D8EE-4B2A-975A-AC2B573960FF AT noqsi DOT com> <20151016213030 DOT GC2813 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <56228E23 DOT 8060309 AT ecosensory DOT com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Complaints-To: usenet AT ger DOT gmane DOT org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.75.102.197 User-Agent: KNode/4.14.10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t9JLRoV9020718 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com John Griessen wrote: > All right! Maybe you can tune us up on writing scheme! > Even if we all turned into guile adepts, the elephant in the room remains: Lack of guile popularity in the general population of users. The difference in popularity between guile/scheme and python, perl or php is not only perceptible but huge. A reasonable yardstick is the number of books available in the computer programming department of amazon. c → 12038 python → 1236 perl → 816 ruby→ 556 php → 2705 scheme → 72 guile → 4 Yes, this is two and a half orders of magnitude differential between and guile. For every title about scheme (and guile) there are 158 books on c. I wouldn't be surprised if the number of books sold is even more extreme. In a volunteer project users are the (only) reservoir contributers can grow from. A language that needs to be learned just to grasp what code is about, is a considerable entry barrier. The more you emphasize guile, the more the barrier raises. In my humble opinion, this damages the project in the long run. It already has done so since about 15 years. We see the result in the number of active developers of back-ends. I sincerely hope, the project is going to make the elephant irrelevant before it turns itself irrelevant. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Knaak+kmk&op=get