X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_CA675282-4652-4DE9-8B29-DA0DDE2A3A38"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] Pin mapping (separate symbols from mappings) X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5.2 From: John Doty In-Reply-To: <201510191722.t9JHMi7G025782@envy.delorie.com> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 12:31:36 -0600 Message-Id: References: <20151018204010 DOT 9cce6a231dcc296256e187bd AT gmail DOT com> <201510181843 DOT t9IIhmWo025346 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20151018234424 DOT c0551dad9bef0859130239d9 AT gmail DOT com> <36B94694-F2AC-4A75-A8EB-40A1CE9A534C AT noqsi DOT com> <201510182225 DOT t9IMPkxK032763 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20151019003814 DOT f62620bf0fec77e65104c105 AT gmail DOT com> <201510190242 DOT t9J2gl7w009345 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <282EF9EF-E103-4101-BB56-A0A365AFFEBE AT noqsi DOT com> <201510190408 DOT t9J48ZbC015157 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201510190502 DOT t9J528LM019325 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <58E58C85-9493-47DD-AC5B-AD78C33A712A AT noqsi DOT com> <201510191640 DOT t9JGeWb0024375 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <4AC7F055-0A26-4DD8-B8F9-8D67F7E36B0A AT noqsi DOT com> <201510191722 DOT t9JHMi7G025782 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_CA675282-4652-4DE9-8B29-DA0DDE2A3A38 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Oct 19, 2015, at 11:22 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: >=20 >> It only requires they be unique if they refer to distinct >> entities. And that, fundamentally, is in the mind of the designer. >=20 > When would two symbols in a schematic ever *not* refer to distinct = entities? >=20 >>> 3. It must provide some user-independent way of making the symbols = unique. >>=20 >> Rigid thinking, taking away the user's freedom to use the tool as >> their problem requires. >=20 > I said *if the tool requires* in which case the user's freedom has > already been limited by their choice to use the tool. >=20 > And this requirement was from *your* statement: >=20 >>> You have to have some way to distinguish them. >=20 > "have to" sounds like a requirement to me, and I was referring to the > case where the user "has to=94. Well, I think that=92s a logical requirement, not a mere desire. >=20 >> (3) requires clairvoyance. >=20 > No, (3) only requires a UUID be assigned to each symbol as it's = instantiated. >=20 Until you realize that users make copies of things using multiple = methods, and the intent of the copy may be to move the circuitry or to = duplicate it. Then, it still requires clairvoyance. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com --Apple-Mail=_CA675282-4652-4DE9-8B29-DA0DDE2A3A38 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWJTcIAAoJEF1Aj/0UKykRprYP/iu7IDJmy2apUmYAdzytPBAK TItP11S+c2FaEIw+fNjpTVhBTUNvQ8++ZvOxlk8Na3vEm87rqBZNchlnVfxD3B6f TctELqmQ/FeoAgO2nP5Mh2oG8FjIdi6T4jqxHlp7+rJBZYsROWpc8hU68GtRTEfn cqig6xj05dgUpg0iYm+rRPStYSDnOmvkZBr4LO/RGdU91ZSKHqBlKS56iwTX0Bke WRn7y8LxdZE5Mo0mZl/PlwFtR8ZEn9rv9tszH4Z5qqXGe+NyM7ygJHQyjWn5q+XZ VAFXIZcYwA/iyYUUC3kJk8K0oyqX4n5CzdYZvfsNCjdCFDfYZBe1PdJ9fouinZr5 THnmirC+a1TN7lozIsRANc25Hdeg60ZUQGdeAPAh+VwkY3ipSCQniQJ5d0UuUfAS Ng/u4gsgXHDo42FayOJBlLDtsiJ4vou6DVZu/JGvkZyzDDF/VU1xTO6O56mEuznq cxyqFz4BydukCxUkDe1GCFAk8R0fnpuPow3tO8WAx3z21agkmbjoy3HuuDWmRPz+ LfCiAM7Fq77lqoZTdBbiEC9ijz/Vs+HcqnqOXu8s3MUPJhdVAUQoMNsWXChQNZyO 3NybLHUD9bI0CWCC3LNHb8Vw3lPXInYH8aOFb3cHgB66k8FDz3GdWStXUV+R5ig2 YLv1HiBA67or2a7uDgop =Ldag -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_CA675282-4652-4DE9-8B29-DA0DDE2A3A38--